Howard Dean is first.

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http://www.grist.org/news/2008/03/21/kansas_coal/index.html

You betcha,Phil.

..from last thread (and then to read about Al) 

listener wrote "I just posted a long post about monotheism and violence."

I don't think that there's much connection bet. mono and Buddhism, except for the teaching  of the Oneness, which most monotheistic religions do not preach or practice as evidenced by the endless wars and killing.  I think monotheism ideally is supposed to teach that we are One and that there is no other god, and certainly no god that is *better* than any other.  Unfortunately, we now have poly-gods,each one better than the other, according to one's point of view, nationality, ideology etc.   And to think that 3 major religions sprang from the *loins* of Abraham...warring endlessly and aggressively.

Buddhism is pacific and eschews war. 

Perhaps we need to go back to worshipping Mother Nature and the tree nymphs.  :-) 

Oh Dear, Phil was first and now is 2nd and I'm second and now first.

DEAN IS ALWAYS FIRST EVEN IF #10. 

From Joe Kleins lips to god's ears...all of them...today we can call them the 100 superdelegates.

Gore/Obama!

Gore/Boxer 

Al Gore is a realist. He'll side with Obama. He's been advising him every couple of weeks anyway. There's no way he'd want the Hillbilly's back in the WH.

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Sucky day down in Seattle. Weather is yuckles - still snowing here. Mostly sleet down in the big city but my little island is snowy.

Charles, thank you for giving those of us who are not pleased with what's being served up for us, a reason to hope against hope.

Gore/Obama

Gore/Boxer

Condi as VP is being floated in the CM.  If BO is the nominee and has to choose a woman, McC will pretty much be forced to choose a woman with *foreign policy* experience as well.  And if she's AA, so much the better.  Is she still polling well?

Al Gore could easily side with BO, as Gore's VP.  :-)

Then again, as long as we're fantasizing,

Gore/Edwards 

Gore/Dean

There are several great choices for VP, with Gore as prez.

nam myoho renge kyo

Republican voting for Obama = Obama-can

Thank you Charles. I needed this one.

I'm over in San Jose for the CDP Convention.

bbl

Well, there are enough "games" in the field now to confuse everyone. Now we have Gore's name being thrown in, and Ventura considering something.

Is Bloomberg the one or Shumer trying to pacify Hillary with the Gov. of NY?

Howard said July 1, or sooner. He should go on a search for VP, like Cheney did, and appoint himself, as Cheney did, and be done with this.

If when all of the dirt settles, Howard Dean is not on this ticket, then I am just too sick and tired of all of it. I will just turn the channel like I do with the games on TV. Yo'll can just go ahead and elect either unworthy or unsavory. We let the better ones go early on.

The Velvet Underground’s ‘Squeeze’: Not as bad as you’d think

crash

caroline

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friends

I just made a contribution AND signed up for Democracy Bonds. Howard needs our help with these Clinton cry babies wanting their money back. This has to be a first. Asking for your contributions back cuz your candidate wants to cheat and is being told no. She reeks of desperation.

I think Gore's time to run has come and gone.

As the NY Times said yesterday, Hillary has a campaign but Obama has a movement. She has prose but he has poetry.

My only co-worker who was an ardent Hillary supporter today said the Bosnian fairy tale did her in. She is now looking for a button that says, "Even my llama supports Obama," so she can wear it. (She loves llamas.)

Howard won't be on the ticket because he can't. He has the party chairmanship until 2009. He steps out of there we are likely to have McAwful again.

For the record, I never wanted Howard to take the chairmanship for just that reason, but he did and he's doing well and he makes us all proud.

I wish Obama would choose Barbara Boxer for his running mate but the GOP will paint her as a dangerous leftie. I'm pretty sure he will pick Kathleen Sebelius. She's not exciting but that might be a good thing.

I doubt McCain will pick Condi. I suspect McCain of being a sexist at heart. I think he'll pick Romney.

-- volney

Reality check time~

Try Clozaril.

Neither Gore or Howard are '08 candidates for any level of political office.

Wishful/delusional cognating. 

TX bats the Clintonistas upside the delegate haid tomorrow.

Well worth the wait. 

oh please, where has gore been? he crapped out in 2000 and later. get a grip

obama is the man

joe klein is a weasel.

and I know, want to know why? ask.

Gee, I don't know what Bible that Anglican dude is reading, but mine tells me if someone strikes me, turn the other cheek -- if they steal my coat I should also give them my cloak -- if they force me out of my path I should go the second mile.

My Bible says there is no scenario where vengeance is called for. My Bible says if we are to be like God we must forgive and forget every slight.

I have no idear in the world what he's reading.

-- volney

Volney Simmons...

Of course Howard could be on the ticket. He's not in Jail. The DNC would be glad to release him and appoint his assistant to finish a few months left of his term. He has a lot of support in the DNC and they already know he won't do another term. There is nothing to stop him from being VP.

Try clorazil.....LMAO

Firefox is working OK, but my IE - sucks, tonight.

One of my favorites:

0:00:00 (Real | MP3 | Pop‑up)

http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/26632 

Well, I suppose Howard could be VP but I don't think he wants to.

And OK, I'll ask, "Why is Joe Klein a weasel?"

-- volney

Ooohhh....Meddle

Lovely memories of being in my friend's 68 black Dodge Charger......

Hillary's latest sinister plan, and why she's harping about popular vote:

Puerto Ricans LOVE voting and vote even in primaries at an 80% or better turnout rate. They will have a primary rather than a caucus this year.

Clinton could come out of that one with a million popular votes more than Obama gets, then keep on harping that the popular vote winner should be the nominee.

That's what they said tonight on PBS. It wouldn't surprise me.

-- volney

Maine.....

Wishful, delusional and cognating?

Do I get to choose? or can I have all three?

Now, my turn...You don't know what you are talking about.

Al Gore will be involved in commerce.  End of story!  Al will talk to people in government, and try to the best of his ability to influeence persons in politics, but that will be it.  All I will say is: Best Wishes Al (keep us in your heart). 

If Richardson were down in Puerto Rico, maybe he could change the outcome.

http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/b...

Y'all can stream Tristan and Isolde live from the Met in the background.

Al and Howard are pipe dreams kids.

Quick good night, but just finished watching Bill Moyers' Journal.  The program examined race today and 40 years ago when Detroit, Newark, and other cities burned.  Senator Harris from Oklahoma worked on the Kerner Report authorized by LBJ to find out the causes of poverty, violence, and racism.  Ten years later the report was forgotten and the situation is worse than it was then. The Reagan era particularly had a negative effect by convincing people that government was the problem and could do no good. A white backlash of resentment also contributed to the neglect of the solutions proposed in the Kerner Report.

 Corry Booker, Mayor of Nework, New Jersey was interviewed.  WOW! Articulate, passionate, an acitivist of the highest order.  He said he made a commitment to dedicate his life to the American dream, and he's doing it. He graduated from Yale, was a Rhodes Scholar, and then moved into the ghetto and rented an apartment in a project where he lived for 7 years.  He ran for mayor and lost, and then ran again and won.  In his administration, the murder rate is down 70 percent.  He's working to change policies.  

He said that he believes in the American experiment, that he would give his life for it, and when all the talk is over, what are we doing each day to bring justice, fairness, help to our fellow humans. As I think about that it's the best of all religions, and Buddhism in particular comes to mind with the dictim to serve human kind as our life's work.

I'd vote for him for president.  He's in the mold of Obama, and what a passionate, idealistic, and pragmatic generation they are showing themselves to be.  An outstanding and inspiring program tonight. He like Obama can bring out the best in us.  And we need to be our best desperately.  Like Obama he says, everyone must contribute.  Leaders can't and won't do it for us.  He proposed a new statue alongside the Statue of Liberty, and he named it the Statue of Responsibility and Obligation to give bacfk for what we've been given.  

typos: I'm sure I wrote Newark.  Must be finger Alzeimers.

Annilow....

I thought you all had hope now? I ask you why not?

Billy Bragg - O Freedom

Policeman broke my door down... 

 Freedom what liberties are taken in thy name 

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I have hope -- I have hope that Obama gets the nomination, wins the presidency, and heals the US of A. Gore's time has come and gone. As much as we love Howard, the general American people see him as a polarizing figure. That could change by 2012 but not this year. Just my opinion for the evening.

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Rush  Working Man   Rush 

Barack Obama must be taking lessons from Jesse Jackson

"George Bush said this is the ownership society, but he really meant this is the 'your on your own' society"

"Let's say the elders of the Democratic Party decide, when the primaries end, that neither Obama nor Clinton is viable. ... All they'd have to do would be to convince a significant fraction of their superdelegate friends, maybe fewer than 100, to announce that they were taking a pass on the first ballot at the Denver convention, which would deny the 2,025 votes necessary to Obama or Clinton. What if they then approached Gore and asked him to be the nominee, for the good of the party-and suggested that he take Obama as his running mate? ..

This is getting out of hand. "the elders of the Democratic Party decide?"
For Gore? Gee, I'm all confused. Gore and Obama his running mate?

Yep, the Dem Party is in deep doo doo.

youtube  Rush 2112

audrey, good response.  I agree that Howard could be on  the ticket and should be.  I, too, am tiring of this mess.

And yes,  I hope deals that are good for ALL of us are in the works.

Gore and Edwards are not being quiet for no reason - along with many supers who are holding their cards close.

There are 2 polarizing people running as dems, both of whom are neck and neck with McC,  and Rove hasn't even started yet to trash the nominee.  When that starts and McC pulls ahead, I think we'll see some fancy and surprising things.

Hope, not polarization! 

now gone dancing  :-) 

There are 2 polarizing people running as dems, both of whom are neck and neck with McC,  and Rove hasn't even started yet to trash the nominee.  When that starts and McC pulls ahead, I think we'll see some fancy and surprising things.

Yep, lot's of humans if not most like to be surprised. McCain is no surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r22eiRrjjWc&feature=user

Good night. 

42. seashell

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Rove is a big guy with lightweights.  Hillary is a sitting duck for Rove. 

But Rove has never confronted anyone like Barack.  And I don't worry about that sneaky old Nixonian bastard any more.  BO will schmaltz the schmuck.

Gore could have jumped in as late as Dec. First and had a 50/50 chance, his odds now are 100-1.

If the convention goes past two votes I like his chances as the default candidate if deadlock though.

Hillary is a 20-1 odds herself.

The person with the actual tie breaker votes is John Edwards in the improbable event Hillary stages a comeback.

volney:

What amazes me is that this is such an incompetend blog in regards to it's technical function.

And people are still posting here.

Can you believe it? Some poster declared this blog to be a Cadillac compared to it's beginning?

Sorry, I like fancy but if the basics are not working fancy is not working either.

Obama answered the "three priorities" question today on the view. that was the youtube clip I'd like to see again

anyone?

Rats I slept through the 'leibstod' oh well...nite all...

My husband and I watched In The Valley of Elah today.  Very powerful message.  Thought provoking.  Every American should see this movie.

Just another note tossed in this random bucket of words. As I look around and talk w/folks, tere are NO elders in the Democratic Party. my good buddy Helen is 90some, has been Mayor of Lincoln, and run for governor. Her mind is 30 something with extra wisdom and experience. The real Obama Girl. Our county delegates are largely 20 some and wiser than any twelve bushes. This Party is ready to quit puppy-fighting amongst ourselves and go after the massive expansive cancerous anal warts who attacked our country from the top.

Thanks for Meddle, Paine. There are memories.

Quick good night, but just finished watching Bill Moyers' Journal.  The program examined race today and 40 years ago when Detroit, Newark, and other cities burned

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Watching it now.  That's where I'm from.  Spent 10 years of my life rebuilding/restoring our 3-story 60,000 square foot tenement building at the edge of a decaying neighborhood.

Never really got payback for the labor,  but my mother was able to buy a condo in the suburbs for herself and is still living on a meager fixed income from value funds she got when she sold it.

13.

puddle
Fri, 03/28/08

Thank you puddle

Well, I'm back from dancing and I have a question for BO people.  Actually 3 questions.

Who of you would be very happy with a Gore/Obama ticket?

Who of you would be very happy with an Obama/Sibelius ticket?

Which combo(s) is a sure winner by a large enuf margin to offset repug mischief?

Good morning, everybody

So, are we doing a survey of states that have quirky voting systems that could be jiggled this time?

Did you all hear that the Hannaford credit card fraud was the result of soft-ware that was installed in each register in each store that sent info about credit card purchases to Europe?  Of course, since Hannaford was purchased by a Belgian outfit and Belgium is in Europe, that shouldn't be too surprising.   

sea, to answer your question, since I've been looking into the Clinton foundation machinations, I's not sure that Gore's enterprises are all that different.  The Clintons are part of the scam the monetary elite are running to evade the controls of popular democracy.  They want to go global in order to be free of local restrictions that might put a crimp in their schemes.  Local and even regional governments are seen as an impediment.  Indeed, even though it's almost too unwieldy to accomplish much, the United Nations has fallen into disfavor because the wrong interests are in the majority.

"scheming monetary elite" is actually a pretty good moniker. 

I think Fred's got it just right.  What African Americans don't appreciate is that white bigots are really terrified of them.  In a way, they're like little girls being scared of a furry brown spider that some naughty boy's brought to class.

hysterical republicans having to be persuaded that BO doesn't bite

How's that for a cartoon? 

DEA is now losing fewer lap tops and more guns than they did five years ago.  231 lap tops lost or stolen in five years; 91 firearms.

Good morning, BFA!

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While I am not among those who believe that Al's time has *come and gone,* I do not believe that it is in the cards that he will run in any capacity this year.

If for nothing else, he's having too much fun and is not constricted by protocol. He is actually accomplishing a lot right now through international networks, much more than is being reported through our slaggard MSM.

While he would make an outstanding President (I thought that in 2000 as well and have seen no reason to change my mind since), he has never had his heart into campaigning in the way that we force our national candidates to do. He certainly would not be VP on any ticket. He's been there and done that.

IMO, the only way that he would be a compromise candidate is if there were overwhelming support at the convention for that to happen. As things now stand, I don't believe that is probably, but, as we have seen before in politics, anything is possible.

As for who he will endorse, IMO, Al will, like Howard, wait until all the primaries have run their course.

*probably* s/b *probable* ... sigh

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Dan Froomkin's latest on putz as ostrich.

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Bush's Simplistic Vision
By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Friday, March 28, 2008; 1:36 PM

The new wave of violence sweeping Iraq is not just a powerful rejoinder to President Bush's insistence that the U.S. troop surge has been a success -- it's also a reminder of how the problems facing that troubled country are much more complex than he will acknowledge.

In the vision Bush puts forward, there are just two sides in Iraq: The good guys and the bad guys; our team and an enemy who, as he put it in his speech yesterday, "will try to fill the TV screens with violence." To Bush, the people of Iraq need our help to save them from terrorists who intend to overthrow Iraq's brave and unified government on their way to attacking America.

That the current battle in Basra is essentially between rival Shiite militias fighting for political power doesn't alter his narrative.

[...]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

Silvio's ba-a-a-ck!

Well, almost.

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PC and nearly gaffe-free: the new Berlusconi
Former PM repackages himself as elder statesman in Italian election campaign
John Hooper in Rome
The Guardian, Saturday March 29 2008

Outwardly he is much the same, just disconcertingly younger. His facelift has settled down, so he no longer has the stretched look of four years ago. His hair transplant a few months later has endowed him with a thick, slightly unnatural pelt, the human equivalent of Astroturf.

But what Silvio Berlusconi is saying in the campaign leading to Italy's general election on April 13-14 is unrecognisable from even a few months back.

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar...

Somebody ought to do a spoof of McCain "American" from the perspective of all those South, Central and Canadian Americans who consider the US claim to the designation a joke.

monin' judy,

you think maybe somebody's going to do a make-over comparison between Silvio and Hill?  which has been most convincing?

too bad the make-over business has become such big business it's hard to make fun of it anymore.  it's because the guys have got into it.  there was a professor of religion in Florida who kept getting his face peeled.  nobody made jokes to his face. 

So much for the Iraqis handling the battle themselves ... and if anyone truly believes that al-Maliki is commanding US forces, then they are deluded as putz is.

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American war