Dean is honest.

Monica wrote "Dean is honest."

But is he first?

So she never did as she claimed?

When is the media going to notice this??

-- volney

I'd like to confirm that Dean is honest and also first and Hillary and Bill are both liars who simply don't give a hoot.

Great post Monica. Recommended for sure!

yes, well, it's up but there's nobody here.

my connection is really sluggish. 

Oklahoma: mind-blowing anti-gay tirade by state representative

Mother of god, this is horrible. We nominate to the pantheon of homo hate Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern (sallykern@okhouse.gov). She didn't know that she was being recorded in a meeting, so we get the a nice insight about what she thinks of her gay and lesbian constituents. Perhaps she doesn't think she has any.

About 30 seconds into this homobigoted, fact-free, BS screed, Rep. Kern actually says how she doesn't hate gays (of course not!), then proceeds to continue on her tirade of filth.

Some tidbits:

Studies show, no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted for more than, you know, a few decades. . .

I honestly think it's the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam.

They want to get them into the government schools so they can indoctrinate them.

...They are going after our young children, as young as two years of age, to try to teach them that the homosexual lifestyle is an acceptable lifestyle.

You know, gays are infiltrating city councils...did you know that the city council of Eureka Springs is now controlled by gays -- they are winning elections. ... read more by pam HERE: http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary....

perhaps you'd like a definition of confabulation--

Confabulation, also known as false memory is the confusion of imagination with memory, and/or the confusion of true memories with false memories. [1] Confabulation can result from both organic and psychological causes.[2]

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation 

Hi all.

Sitka, thanks for that Gary Hart post. That comment cost Hillary 3 supporters in my circle.

back track

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24179#comment-1178275

Studies show, no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted for more than, you know, a few decades. .

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totally embraced?  somebody ought to tell this woman that J. Edgar was a flamer. 

OK Phil cough up the blogging from the farthest distance from Vermont prize. I made it to Ushuaia in spite of being stuck in a window seat on a three across. My Ipod Nano got me through. I left 90 degree Florida summer weather at Iguazu and have flown into San Francisco midwinter no prolly Seattle midwinter grey rainy stuff in a funky town that looks like something out of Indiana Jones or maybe Alaska where I´ve never been but then you look out over the water don´t ask me what water Beagle Channel maybe and the view is almost worth the trip. NO ONE speaks English. I am very thankful for my California style Spanglish here. Tomorrow I´m going to some lakes which I know nothing about except it´is supposed to be very beautiful Escondido and another one. I will write and let you know. In the meantime, even tho it´is still daytime here it is at leat 9 pm so I will say adios until tomorrow. On the plane ride in I saw some beautiful but craggy mountains with snow atop. This is a very strange place. That is why I wanted to see it. So long for now.

http://alternet.org/waroniraq/75646/

Annilow wins.

BBC: Printable version Can Hillary Clinton still win? By Molly Levinson
US political analyst  

Along those lines, Mrs Clinton's path to the nomination depends on accomplishing three things.

• First, Mrs Clinton must win the popular vote so that she can present her majority as a reason for super-delegates to get behind her
• Second, Mrs Clinton must also lessen the gap between her number of pledged delegates and Mr Obama's. Mr Obama already has one more caucus victory this week: Wyoming, which he won by a large margin on Saturday. He is also favoured in the upcoming contests in Mississippi and North Carolina. Mrs Clinton must win decisively in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana and Puerto Rico. Florida and Michigan, two states which have been disqualified from the process for breaking with party rules, also hang in the balance
• Finally, Mrs Clinton must prove resoundingly that she is the more electable of the two candidates in a general election and would be a better president. She must combat Mr Obama's claim to the mantle of change and at the same time emphasise her credentials to prove that she is best able to beat John McCain

Super-delegates do not have to vote until the end of August, at the Democratic Convention in Denver.

Six months is plenty of time to build an unbeatable argument for super-delegate support - but there is little room for error and almost no room for losses.

thanks for the thread, Monica - well done!  Clinton may not actually be a liar - it could be a mental disrorder.  she often exhibits symptoms of delusion and her teeter-totter comments of late make one wonder if might be manic-depressive.

>> so why hasn't Geraldine Ferraro been 'fired' from the Clinton campaign?  oh that's right, all the cmw's can talk about today is spitz-her, so her comments have been buried.  hope someone notices and points out the hypocracy...

I knew you would win the front page with this one Monica. You have a great mind and wonderful front page talents.

Hi,

Puddle, your website is astonishing.  The photos are incredible, the poetry, soliloquies, essays are wonderful.  Thank you for sharing so much beauty with us.

Monica, your essay on prejudice was worth thinking about.  I saw the Bill Moyers program on Reverend Hagey (spell?) and I thought to myself, what do you do with people who can't and won't think, who are so totally closed to any other perspective that it's like arguing with a vacuum cleaner. I'd have to say they were cultists, and they are controlled by hate, fear, and oppression.  To think that he has 16,000 people in his congregation and many more around the country reminds me of a science fiction plot of androids programmed.  

I went for a walk and the South Pacific song: "You have to be taught to hate and fear. It has to be drummed in your dear little ear, to hate all the people your relatives hate. You have to be taught."

How true that still is.  No matter the argument, no matter the reality, the prejudice is there and there is no logic to it; there is no resoning.  It continually asserts itself.  How do we eradicate hatred?  How do we deal with prejudice so deep that people don't even realize they are prejudiced?  

Well, thanks again for all the good postings.  Phil, I enjoy your strategizing.  I'm hoping the American people will see how much we need a change.  We've had authoritarians for 16 years, and inevitably they generate a furious opposition.  There will always be people who disagree with a given leader, but democratic leaders like Obama can bring more people into the dialogue. 

Terrific front post on Clinton and the non meeting. Thank you.  It should go to the Obama website.

I wish Anni had let me know about her trip -- darn, I could have crawled into a suitcase (I'm not very big) and come along with her.

Enjoy Anni wherever you are. Stay safe!

bbl

Monica

What I find amazing is that you have that clear thinking reasoning mind turned on day after day and thank you again for sharing.

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I will say in defense of Hillary that she is just like the rest of us, shaped by her upbringing, her marriage, her life's experience and has had to overcome formidable challenges to get where she is at, and I still think that gender discrimination is so widespread that she is "everywoman" (when she is not).

I think it a positive thing that this race has gone on so long so that the whole country can weigh in, and it has been the right mix of the Party and the people because it has involved the actual contest for delegates.

this isn't a contest for President it is a contest to be that unique individual that embodies the Democratic Party values as well as presenting the resume and personal qualities to lead the nation

What is it about her message that appeals to blue collar types? The gender disparity is a given.

 How do we deal with prejudice so deep that people don't even realize they are prejudiced

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It is a rare individual that doesn't have some prejudices. you just have to work around the deep ones, and work with those you can change

psycho-therapy takes years

hate turned into action has to be confronted directly though

Educators or Kingmakers?

...Most prominent among these is the delegate and superdelegate bloc affiliated with the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, the nation’s two largest teachers’ unions. In 2004, more than 400 regular delegates to the convention were members of the two unions, making up a group bigger than every state delegation except California’s.

Good news for the unions, however, might not be good news for education. The union agenda has often run counter to the interests of students and teachers alike....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/opinion/10white.html?th&emc=th

Thank you all for the plaudits.  i'd be turned in, but the new time is letting me stay up later.  

Tomorrow is town meeting day in NH when local elections are held.  

The spouse is looking for another term of three years.  Just think, 

he was Howard's example of people getting elected library trustee.

That was before the town council gig.  People are quite

exercised because the anti-taxers have put up a slate of three.

One's a former sub-prime mortgage broker who went belly up

and is looking to do something with the money is the trust funds.

It is a rare individual that doesn't have some prejudices.

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good point.  Few people are lucky enough to be raised without prejudices for or against  any particular race or group, the rest of us have to struggle with it.

It is the people who give up struggling and give in, that are guilty of prejudice.

So she never did as she claimed?

When is the media going to notice this??

When the Obama campaign tells them about it. Self-styled journalists seem to do little these days but regurgitate what the campaigns fax and tell them in conference calls.

needed to change browser

This is something you all might pay attention to.  When there's a financial downturn, whatever money the local governments have set aside in rainy day funds of trust accounts attract the financial wizzards' attention.  Especially as tax revenues start to shrink, they'll come forward with schemes that will earn a higher rate or interest.  They'll even come with proposals to 'invest' bond money in "instruments" with a higher return to show a short-term profit.  Of course, they'll take their fees for arranging the deal off the top.  That was the impetus for all the mortgage refinancing--the fees lenders could collect right away. 

Here comes one of my off the wall opinions.

We need three presidents, or 3 co-VPs so that there is a tie breaker.  One person as CinC has gotten us into the mess we're in and it simply is too much power for one person.

So...I suggest, we change some rules very quickly, let HC and BO run with a third person giving us 3 presidents of equal power.  Who that third person should be, I don't know.  ...maybe we could have a one day IRV with the candidates who were drummed outta the race for one reason or another.   As long as FL and MI are messing things up, let's mix it up even more and have a third candidate.  

Of course this idea will not take hold..but maybe for the future.  Maybe it's time for a Parliamentary system, cuz this one is doomed. 

BO is playing a poor defensive game.  That's not good for going up against Rove, who will pull something like a Spitzer on him - not infidelity necessarily..but something slimy.

And he really needs to stop crowing about how he's anti-war.  That seems to be all he can say these days and Rove will pull out his voting record.  Bye bye youth votes.  Hillary should keep talking about his funding votes which are identical to hers.

See what I mean?  The wars aren't gonna end.  We have no peace candidate! 

He gonna have to start fighting which he doesn't like to do.  He wouldn't even have to fight dirty ... but he needs to fight or lose the gen'l even if he wins the primary.

I sense that Michelle wears the pants in that family. That's not a bad thing, but I would prefer equality in the BH.

Poor Spitzer's wife, but we don't know the story of their marriage, do we?  I'm not condoning his actions, but I'm not so quick to judge either.

I think the reason Hillary didn't leave Bill was becuz she had her eye on the presidency and needed his help.  She's not a weak woman in any way.  She's tough, she's a fighter, perhaps she lies, but isn't BO maintaining he's anti-war a form of lying?  I think so. 

I was lucky being a child in Germany.  There the prejudice was against people in the East--Poles and Russians, in particular.  Cockroaches were called Russians.  My mother had a thing about cockroaches and fleas.  There were cockroaches that lived in the cookstove of the farmer family that let me stay for their delicious lunch.  So, her attitude toward the roaches was not one I automatically shared.  And, being inspected for fleas wasn't pleasant either, so my mother's prejudices were hard to share.  Then we arrived in L.A. and my playmates across the street were Polish refugees and I realized that what I'd been told didn't square with the reality.  I think that shared antagonism can only persist when segregation is maintained (it doesn't need to be official) and the antagonists provide some actual benefit.

Anyway, I managed to develop my own resentments.  The shop-owners in the L.A. neighborhood earned it by trying to cheat on the prices.  They'd mark one price on the shelf and ring up a few cents more.  Ran across the same behavior in Harlem in the 1970s.  But, my resentments do tend to be behavior specific. 

The reason I really resent discrimination on the basis of characteristics over which people have no control is because when someone is favored because of characteristics they don't have, their advancement isn't earned.  Being discriminated for is just as insulting as being discriminated against.  The person is being disrespected. 

"How do we eradicate hatred?"

We don't, Pat.  We can only eradicate it in outselves, by dealing with the shadow at all levels.   Hate is fear. 

There's a saying I love.  "There's nobody out there, nobody.  We're projecting it all."

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.  :-)

Hey, prejudice is useful. Think of the prejudice against those pretty red mushrooms. You better believe it when somebody tells you to leave them alone.  Or those pretty coral snakes.  You don't want to wait until they bite.  Where the trouble comes is when the information is a lie and the object is just to keep you under control.  Like this whole terrorist schtick.

Huh???

 I think that shared antagonism can only persist when segregation is maintained

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certainly a division has to be created, in the mind if not reality

hey, sea!  re: And he really needs to stop crowing about how he's anti-war.  That seems to be all he can say these days and Rove will pull out his voting record.

are you listening to him, or the cmw's?  it is certainly NOT 'all he can say'.  once agian, opinion, NOT FACT.  and these aren't 'my claws coming out', just trying to keep you honest, perhaps even to yourself.

♡Pat♡

good lord, sea - and this:  She's tough, she's a fighter, perhaps she lies, but isn't BO maintaining he's anti-war a form of lying?  I think so. 

well apparently you AREN'T listening to him.  he does not say he is 'anti-war' he says he was against the Iraq war.  for someone with so many damning opinions of him, you sure don't know much about him.  scrolling you again for awhile - can't stand the bs.

And he really needs to stop crowing about how he's anti-war.

seashell~ Apparently, that's just your opinion because it's not being headlined anywhere.

shortcut to new thread.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24170...

Hi Puddle,

Gobbledy gook from my perspective about shadow selves and no one else exists. Sounds to me like narcissism, the ultimate in-your-head existence.  There is hatred; there is violence; there is ideological blindness; there is exclusiveness; there is prejudice.  I think Phil is probably right, we all do have prejudices.  For instance, the Snopes family in Faulkner's novels is really a repugnant group: blind ambiton, no ethics, crudeness, prejudice, ignorance.  I am prejudiced against that but believe it can be ameliorated, improved upon.  But, in my lifetime, I have listened to prejudiced people, and I'm amazed that no logic, reasoning, life experience seems to apply, and frankly, I don't know what I as a citizen can do except protest it.

I had a student once who spoke scurriously about Dr. Martin Luther King.  I told him he couldn't do that in class.  His parents were going to sue me. They were members of the Aryan nation.  I told them that if they felt they should sue me, they should go ahead.  They didn't.  What to do??? 

should be scurrilously

there was a slight enough moon tonight at late twilight that many of the satellites that clutter the sky were visible as distinct from stars

children today see a different night sky than my childhood

at what age is it appropriate to develop a storyline that explains that earth would be pretty much invisible to a naked eye from anywhere outside the solar system, that some  manmade objects are upthere, other things lightyears away are giant suns, what do we teach our children about the night sky, many in urban areas can't even see but a fraction

in my high school years I would come home after sports practice and climb up the silo and pitch down silage, and by late winter when the silo was nearly empty, I could lie on my back and look up through that black cylinder that let no man made light in and see deeply into the universe

light pollution makes that impossible now  

but I never saw the Hubble images that puddle shares on her amazing blog either

when you name things do you lose the wonder? we are all stardust anyway

take race, if we didn't name distinctions would they matter as much?

Geradine Ferraro was way out of line, "what planet does she live on?"

Pretty good. Sounds like you are on a roll!~~

 Our Earth is not at rest. The Earth moves around the Sun. The Sun orbits the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. The Milky Way Galaxy orbits in the Local Group of Galaxies. The Local Group falls toward the Virgo Cluster of Galaxies. But these speeds are less than the speed that all of these objects together move relative to the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR). In the above all-sky map from the COBE satellite, radiation in the Earth's direction of motion appears blueshifted and hence hotter, while radiation on the opposite side of the sky is redshifted and colder. The map indicates that the Local Group moves at about 600 kilometers per second relative to this primordial radiation. This high speed was initially unexpected and its magnitude is still unexplained. Why are we moving so fast? What is out there?

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080309.html

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Jo, I'm of the opinion that opinions are allowed on Howard's blog.  I didn't state it as fact.

Facts can be changed according to the whim of politicians.  We all know that.  Yes, I listened to him today.  I always listen to him and I still maintain that, to me, he's fairly fluffy.  :-)

Jo, you're playing with words.

Just scroll.  I'll leave again cuz this blog gets very critical and toxic at times.

bye