DNC Chair, Gov. Howard Dean M.D. is first!

Panetta's Lament: They had no Plan.

http://www.observer.com/2008/panettas-la...

Gov. Howard Dean still rocks.

Obama has 24 point lead in Vermont according to Rasmussen.

Obama had the support of 57 percent of the 1,013 Vermonters polled by Rasmussen Reports, based in New Jersey. Clinton had 33 percent and 10 percent said they were undecided. The poll was conducted Sunday and has an error margin of 3 percentage points.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080226/NEWS01/80226018

Hotline is teasing that Richarson may endorse. Not sure who he will endorse but he said *the race is far from over*. Does that mean Hillary? Hmmm. I won't post the link because it's just rumor at this stage. If you feel inclined head over to Hotline.

Phil - I'm sorry about the loss of your calf.

We have four cats and one dog. My girlfriend just lost her cat and exclaimed *oh Mary, you have five more heartbreaks*. I love animals.

Phil the debate comes on here at 6pm PT and it's not delayed as far as I know, so comment away!

It's on MSNBC according to my Dish Network guide.

Sorry about losing the calf :(

McCain promptly apologized about the wingnut who introduced him today. Why does Hillary not denounce publicly all the crap her surrogates have thrown at Obama? And the nut who announced her in Ohio - Baffenberger (sp?)

Phil ~ sorry to see comments about your losing a calf :-(

Go, Howard, Go!!!

Back in MA and just stopping in for a few minutes... it's been a long day and I'm gonna call it an early night. Will be out and about tomorrow running errands.

oops 7:33 pm est

:-)

Good work of late, Dan.  It seems some at HQ are listening. 

I still want the time-stamp restored ASA(you can)P'ly(fit it in to your schedule, thanks for trying).

_____

Sorry 'bout the calf, Phil. 

::Waving:: 2 all

7:37pm EST

Hi all. Sea, I think it's great news that Zbiggy is on Barack's team. He (Z) has spoken out against Iraq for quite some time now. He's a realist.

Also, strategically smart on Barack's part...the repugs are going to paint him inexperienced against McCain. The fact that it isn't working for Hillary doesn't mean it couldn't for McCold.

Hi Paine, Thankful, cChal and anyone else that just wandered in :)

Hey, Denise:)

::waving:: Hi back, Denise ♥

Howdy all...

Hey Paine ~ I'll most likely see ya for lunch tomorrow if that works.

7:42 pm est

This guy Ohio Dem Party Chair is good.

Mathews is

A fourteen year old here just said, "that guy is annoying"

Q: Who?

A;  That guy.  He is annoying.

Let the court note that the child pointed to "that asshole" Mathews.

mary vb, thanks for that Panetta link. I think Leon nailed it.

Lunch is on @ 3:30 (give or take)

at Stop N Shop (where MGMT has cut part-time hours to 15hrs...hoping rationally that they will quit their $10/hr  job and MGMT can reduce the pay of newbies to $8.00) (

Boo on Stop&Shop :-( See ya there :-)

7:50 pm est

Phil, I'm sorry for you and the cow mother, losing a calf.  Do you suppose animal mothers "mourn" the loss of their young?  Have you ever noticed any difference?

I adore animas.  They have no nasty agendas and just want to love and be loved. 

Must run, alas ~ closing time is 8.

♥'s to all

Kindness is free!

7:53 pm est

I think he comes with some questionable ethics as well.

In 1981 Brzezinski revealed that he encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. This was part of a wider policy of forcing the Vietnamese out of Cambodia by funding anti-Vietnamese guerrilla groups that the U.S. helped create.[15] Between 1979 and 1981, the World Food Program, which was strongly under US influence, provides nearly $12 million in food aid Thailand. Much of this aid makes its way to the Khmer Rouge.[16] In January 1980 the US started funding Pol Pot while he was in exile. The extent of this support was $85m from 1980 to 1986.[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski#Cambodia 

"I adore animals.  They have no nasty agendas and just want to love and be loved."

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Have you seen them during rutting season? LOL 

I think he comes with some questionable ethics as well.

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Please, sea...don't start.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23349901/

The countdown begins here. Less than an hour away

Candidates get ready to rumble in Ohio
Live MSNBC debate tonight may be last chance to slow Obama's momentum

Keith just said that the BO mailers sent to HC supporters were false but that his supporters aren't hearing that.  Not exact quote.

Hillary should go outside the box tonight and talk about how alike they are and bring up his war votes and other votes he was absent for; some of which were important votes.  

It will confound the media and make the future voters look again, wake them up....

Outside the box~ 

Obama should stop sending out any campaign literature and just donate the money saved to state sanctioned programs to help the homeless and the poor. Put his money to good use.

Not only is it the right thing to do, but anything Clinton would continue to throw out there would just not matter any more (or less) than it does now - which is not much.

I heard some guy on AAR from TX saying that they are now just starting to pay attention.  These voters will always go for the perceived winner, since Americans have to win at everything and be the biggest, the best, the most wonderful in the world.

Yikes! 

The Emerging Third World U.S. spin this one doctor phil! its all going to get better what a joke!

Francis Ferguson
OpEd News
February 26, 2008

I have an expression I present to my economics classes. It has a certain impact: the US is a a third world nation, we just haven’t realized it yet. Our emerging status isn’t obvious. Products remain relatively cheap (energy excluded) despite the falling value of the dollar against most foreign currencies. But there are real signs.

Most Americans who are paying attention have noticed a long term decline in manufacturing jobs in the US. Quarter after quarter, year after year, the government reports job gains, but those gains are primarily in service industries: health care (we’re not talking doctors, here), restaurants and bars, retail trade and, until recently, construction. A close examination of the figures will usually reveal a decline in manufacturing jobs. This is not an accident.




The loss of American manufacturing jobs is largely the result of American firms moving their manufacturing off shore, to labor markets in which workers earn a tiny fraction of US wages. Once the globalization process began in earnest, it became impossible for many American firms to maintain US production even if the wished to. Keeping jobs here would render these firm uncompetitive as the rivals moved to take advantage of peasant wages in places like China , India and other developing nations.

Over the past 30 years, American manufacturing has moved offshore at an accelerating rate. Walk through any big box store (or any other for that matter) and look where things are made. Overwhelmingly, it’s China or other developing nations. The process is inexorable. With “Globalization” we have opened the world’s borders to free trade in goods and services. On the one hand, this has presented opportunities for US manufacturers to expand profits by shifting production to countries where wages are a tiny fraction of those in the United States. Goods made abroad can be sold at an attractive price in the US while still allowing producers to increase the difference between price and total cost, otherwise known a profit. Those companies with a sense of national pride and identity are, finally, forced to move some or all of their production offshore in order to survive.

Aside from the short term charm of finding bargains on the shopping rack, there are serious consequences here. Let’s look them. The first problem is the disappearance of the American “living wage”. The only reason Americans have managed to avoid confronting their declining real income per capita it by increasing the number of family members working. There was a time, in American mythology at least, when people accepted that one working family member could support 4 people at a reasonable standard of living. This was the vision of America Nixon and Krushchev debated, famously, at an exhibit of the postulated US living standards presented in the Soviet Union. This was the Ozzie and Harriet version of American life which was broadcast to the world and to the home audience as standard: the norm. It wasn’t, of course, but it was close enough to what middle America saw around them to be at least plausible. The incomes implicit in that early 1960’s view of American life may have improved until the early 1970’s (there was a war going on and war is always good for employment and incomes), but since that time statistics indicate that the real (inflation adjusted) incomes of American working people have actually declined.




Already, young people are finding no jobs, or a universe of job opportunities which pay poverty wages… This is a problem that is not going away. It’s going to get worse.

A revealing example of this is the February 12th 2008 decision by General Motors to offer buyouts to all 74,000 union hourly workers. This followed closely a similar action by Ford. This would include severance packages for all employees, varying in terms depending on years of service. Relatively new employee’s would get a lump sum payment for leaving and forfeiting all health and post retirement benefits. The new workers, waiting in the wings, will earn on average $16 and hour as opposed to the current average $28 an hour. That rounds to a 43% reduction in income, and little is revealed about what benefits these new workers will receive, or whether or not the will have union representation—though I expect they will. Here is an example of a central, traditional area of American employment were workers are moving from an average of $58,240 pre-tax per year to $33,280 pre-tax. Obviously, these people have a surprising readjustment to make. They’re just the prominent tip of the iceberg. Already, young people are finding no jobs, or a universe of job opportunities which pay poverty wages. It’s why so many young workers (and unemployed youngsters) live at home.

This is a problem that is not going away. It’s going to get worse. Several convergent forces are leading to US economic destabilization. One force driving this tragedy is free trade, also called globalization. One of the more profound spokesmen on this subject is Paul Craig Roberts an economist in the Reagan Administration who has written extensively on the topic and lends support to the argument that globalization is on the verge of ruining the US economy.

The loss of American manufacturing jobs is largely the result of American firms moving their manufacturing off shore, to labor markets in which workers earn a tiny fraction of US wages. Once the globalization process began in earnest, it became impossible for many American firms to maintain US production even if the wished to. Keeping jobs here would render these firm uncompetitive as the rivals moved to take advantage of peasant wages in places like China , India and other developing nations. Even signature American enterprises such as Boing are moving larger segments of their airliner manufacturing to other countries. The finished sub-assemblies for the 777 Dreamliner, for example, are flown to Seattle for final assembly. Highly skilled professionals, such as radiologists (medical doctors specializing in interpreting X-rays) are finding their work sent via high speed communications to much lower paid radiologists in places like India. The effect of allowing the unimpeded flow of capital and goods and services between nations is precisely the same as allowing the free movement of people across borders. In the end, we will experience a relative equalization of wages, world wide. Obviously, those in the current Third World will find wages improving. With billions of impoverished workers waiting in the “wings”, US workers will find their wage declines much more starting and profound than the increases granted to the struggling poor of the developing world.

A byproduct of moving manufacturing to developing nations is a persistent negative balance of trade. For the past 30 or 40 years, the US balance of trade has been in deficit. That is, we’ve bought more from the world than we’ve sold to them. What this means is that other countries have been paid dollars in excess of their intentions to use dollars to buy US goods.
A good example of this is our trade with China.

US Trade With China 1980 - 2006

Year $Billions
1980 2.7
1985 0
1990 -10.4
1995 -33.8
2000 -83.8
2001 -83.1
2002 -103.1
2003 -124.0
2004 -162.0
2005 -201.6
2006 -121.5
Source: www.italy.usembassy.gov/pdf/other/RL33536.pdf

The table, above, shows a relentlessly increasing balance of trade deficit with China. By 2006, the cumulative deficit with China was $950,500,000,000. It is larger today, and China is not alone as a nation with which we are running a deficit. There are many others, Japan being a notable example. Why are the Chinese, Japanese, Indonesians and others willing to hold claims against US dollars, claims they aren’t going to use to buy US made goods or services?

This was a question that plagued me as an economist trying to explain the workings of currency markets and free floating exchange rates to interested students. Under normal market circumstances, the Chinese and others would simply convert dollars into currencies they were interested in using for purchases of imported goods; the value of the dollar would fall and that would make US goods cheaper, US imports more expensive and would tend to equalize our balance of payments situation. But that didn’t happen. The US has been in a consistent balance of payments deficit since the early 1970’s, and somehow the dollar didn’t fall, US exports continued to shrink and US imports exploded. There are several factors at work, here.

The first is the fact that countries like China are seeing their development fueled in significant measure by sales to the US. If the Chinese cashed their dollar claims in for, say, Euros, the dollar would collapse effectively ending the US’s ability to power Chinese economic growth. This collapse of the dollar would also mean the Chinese and other dollar holders would only get a fraction of their nominal dollar wealth in the form of Euros—they’d lose their “dollar gains”.

What the Chinese, and other dollar holders, have chosen to do is to buy US Government bonds, US corporate bonds and US properties. In effect, we purchase more from China than they intend to buy from us, and they simply lend the money back to us. In this way, the get interest earnings, and rents and profits from the US lands and businesses they purchase. In a real sense, the Chinese have financed the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.




With the falling dollar, rising import prices and declining wages and salaries for American workers, the US is headed for a radically different lifestyle. Until US wages fall far enough to make us competitive with workers in developing nations, our decline will continue.

Finally, should dollar holder dump dollars indiscriminately, they would scrap their holdings of the very currency they need to purchase crude oil from the OPEC nations who, until recently, have agreed to sell oil only for US dollars. Dollars used to purchase crude oil are called ‘petro-dollars’. A very significant component of the world demand for dollars has to do with buying petroleum. It’s interesting to note that, apparently, Saddam Hussein was proposing selling oil in currencies other than dollars before we deposed him. Equally interesting is the fact that Iran has been selling oil to China in Yuan.

The ultimate point, here, is the absolute unsustainability of the US’s position. We cannot expect our trading partners to hold dollars in unlimited quantities, and as we’ve no hope of being able to achieve a positive balance of trade, that’s exactly what we are effectively seeking. That nations are cautiously moving out of dollar holdings is revealed by the rather steady overall decline in the value of the dollar over the past three years. This will continue.

With the falling dollar, rising import prices and declining wages and salaries for American workers, the US is headed for a radically different lifestyle. Until US wages fall far enough to make us competitive with workers in developing nations, our decline will continue. Globalization let this evil genie out of it’s bottle, and it’s not clear that anything can force it back.

for sea!


Al-Qaeda-Bilderberg Connection?
FBI Linking Al-Qaeda Funds, Insider Trading Amongst Global Finance Elites and a Soured Texas Asset Buyout as Pakistani Prime Minister Under Investigation

JonesReport | June 2, 2007
Aaron Dykes

As we reported yesterday , an FBI investigation led to charges for two high level Pakistani financiers on multiple counts of conspiracy and fraud. The FBI has announced it is now investigating further links to Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz , as well as Salman Shah , the Prime Minister's financial advisor, Ali Raza , the president of the National Bank of Pakistan and a significant list of other Pakistani financial heads.

The Times of India reported that FBI investigators believe the criminal operation may also be tied to allegations of money-laundering operations for Al Qaeda.


Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, also former Chairman of Citigroup Pakistani Financial Advisor Salman Shah, also governor of World Bank of Pakistan Ali Raza, president of the National Bank of Pakistan

The alleged insider trading took place on knowledge of the TxU buyout , a largest-ever $45 billion leverage deal brokered by Kohlberg, Kravis Roberts & Co. (KKR) and Goldman Sachs, two key firms inside the Bilderberg group, who dominate the investment banking world, and are shown to be very closely linked .



Credit Suisse First Boston, who served as advisors on the TxU buyout and are also represented annually at Bilderberg, are named in the FBI insider trading case that has so far charged Hafiz Naseem, a Credit Suisse FB investment banker , with criminal counts of conspiracy and fraud.

Is there a link between elite Pakistani bankers who brokered the TxU leveraged buyout with Bilderberg firms KKR, Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse and the alleged Pakistani role in a laundering scheme for Al-Qaeda?

Civil charges have been filed against Ajaz Rahim , the head of investment banking at Faysal Bank in Pakistan, on conspiracy and 25 counts of securities fraud.

The high levels of investigation are interesting-- given the close relationship with Western banking, as well as the pivotal role Pakistan plays in the intelligence community and the so-called War on Terror . Pakistan is well known for harboring Al Qaeda, though the government does not officially support the terrorist group.

It was from Pakistan that former ISI chief General Mahmud Ahmad wired $100,000 to supposed lead-hijacker Mohammad Atta , a known CIA-asset, to fund the 9/11 attacks. Of course, the ISI is largely an extension of the CIA and other western intelligence agencies, and works as base of operations for intelligence in the Middle East.


Fmr. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski with Osama bin Laden, circa 1979.
Just north of Pakistan, Zbigniew Brzezinski funded, armed and created the Taliban-- headed by bin Laden-- to offset expected aggression by Soviet forces into Afghanistan in 1979 while Brzezinski was National Security Adviser to President Carter-- proving directly the U.S. link to bin Laden.

"I told the President, about six months before the Soviets entered Afghanistan, that in my judgment I thought they would be going into Afghanistan. And I decided then, and I recommended to the President, that we shouldn't be passive...We weren't passive," Brzezinski told CNN during a 1997 interview.

Brzezinski, of course, helped David Rockefeller found the Trilateral Commission, and is also involved in the Council on Foreign Relations, both of which bleed over into the Bilderberg group, all of which serve an agenda working towards world government.

When Osama bin Laden and his Taliban became a red herring in the War on Terror, they simply moved south to Pakistan, leaving American forces to seize control of Afghanistan (as well as its land, oil, Caspian trade route, and opium crop) while fighting a non-existent enemy. Despite the fact that the phony War on Terror is supposedly fought globally, neither American, Pakistani or U.N. troops have gone after the Taliban forces residing in Pakistan. The reason for this is not Pakistan's duplicity, but that the terrorist group was simply a pretense to control Afghanistan, as its governing forces were perhaps not as accessible as Rick Perry has been in selling out Texas.

Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has also been accessible to the globalists-- he is basically a controlled asset, after all. While he is currently under investigation in the related cases of insider trading over Texas asset deals and Al Qaeda money laundering operations, he was Citigroup's Chairman-- a New York-based investment group operating in the top echelon of the financial world. Aziz spent approximately 30 years with the company.

Citigroup, obviously well established in the banking web, has several Bilderberg ties, including notorious former chair Walter Bigelow Wriston (who transformed Citigroup into one of the biggest conglomerates in the world and also wrote a book called The Twilight of Sovereignty [1992]). Former Citigroup Chairman and CEO John S. Reed was a Bilderberg member as well and also Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange. A number of other top Citigroup executives are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, including CEO Charles Prince , former president & CEO Richard A. Freytag and Vice Chairman William R. Rhodes.

Citigroup grew out of the National City Bank of New York, which was built up by William Rockefeller , brother of John D. Rockefeller. William's grandson James Stillman Rockefeller also headed the bank and worked closely with Walter B. Wriston.

Dr. Salman Shah, financial advisor to the Prime Minister in Pakistan with Paul Wolfowitz in 2005. He also serves as the governor of the World Bank for Pakistan.

Prime Minister Aziz also publicized his relationship with the Carlyle Group and plans for Pakistani investment while attending the 2007 Davos meeting. According to this report:

On the second day of Davos, Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz told the group that the United States' very own Carlyle Group, which "manages $46.9 billion worldwide," is planning to invest several billion dollars in the Middle East.

Aziz's attachments to Western banking go too deep for him to have any real separation from it; on the contrary, it surely those ties launched him into to the top of the Pakistani government.

The Prime Minister's financial advisor, Salman Shah , who is also under investigation, serves as the Governor of the World Bank for Pakistan , which he spoke to in 2004 , 2005 , 2006 (PDF links). He was educated in the United States and taught for many years at a number of Western institutions. He has also spoken at Credit Suisse First Boston conferences , the Bilderberg firm which advised the TxU merger. Haseem, who has been criminally charged in the case, worked for Credit Suisse FB.

Former Pakistani Prime Minister, Moin Qureshi, was Vice President at the World Bank prior to becoming PM and obtained permanent residence in the United States after his term where he established the Emerging Markets Company.

Investigations probing top positions in Pakistani finance and government have implications for the world finance community at large, particularly as the investigations relate to trading on the TxU buyout-- which was nothing more than the leveraging of Texas assets by Bilderberg brokers, particularly Henry R. Kravis, founding partner of KKR who led the TxU deal. Kravis also holds the previous record for largest buyout-- the leveraging of R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company at approximately $26 billion in 1988-- a price that came after a bidding war, which was dramatized in the film Barbarians at the Gate .



Texas has been realigned to shift control to globalist development throughout the region, particularly in regards to new infrastructure such as the Trans-Texas Corridor and energy conglomerates, namely TxU, all of which Texas Governor Rick Perry has personally facilitated, nursed, defended and championed.

In this view, it is fitting that Perry was invited to the 2007 Bilderberg meeting , which Presidential candidate Ron Paul noted was "sure a sign that he's very much involved in the international conspiracy."

Perry sits in a pivotal access point for political manipulation in a state undergoing massive manipulation. Though the Texas governorship is theoretically weak as set up by the Texas constitution, Perry has been all-too-ready to mandate accommodation for globalist investment and to veto any attempts to block such giveaways and defend traditional nation-state based sovereignty. Furthermore, he has proved quite willing to hand over access and assets to global finance-- without prodding by international institutions like the IMF to leverage control, as has been done throughout the third world.

At this point, it is not clear if investigations of inside trading will implicate any of the players in Texas or the Western banking network, but the TxU deal certainly links them with top Pakistani officials currently under investigation, and charges for Nafiz Haseem and Ajaz Rahim.

Denise wrote,

 "Obama should stop sending out any campaign literature and just donate the money saved to state sanctioned programs to help the homeless and the poor. Put his money to good use."

>

No.  If I had contributed to Obama's *mission*

then I would be very displeased to see my contribution spent in a manner not directed at "the mission"

BBL

Paine that's one way of looking at it, yes. Good point.

http://www.houseboatsonportstephens.com....
Clinton, Obama, JFK, and the next terrorist attack
When I first laid eyes on Barack Obama, giving the keynote nomination speech introducing John Kerry, I was excited to see such an articulate spokesman for the rest of us, the non-billionaires. I rode my bicycle to hear him speak at nearby Jefferson High School and liked what I saw: a handsome, caring, articulate, obviously electable Black man inspiring a multiracial crowd, which had been drawn to an African American neighborhood.
HOWEVER
I recently learned that Obama has taken on Zbigniew Brzezinski as his chief foreign policy advisor. Obama could not have taken on a more brazen spokesman for the super rich if he had hired Henry Kissinger, or even David Rockefeller himself! Brzezinski was the architect of the current situation in the middle east. Brzezinski brags of his role in destroying the socialist government in Afghanistan, by secretly arming and training the Taliban to take power; by secretly recruiting, arming and training Osama Bin Laden; he virtually invented armed Islamic extremism. Brzezinski is the most prominent of Rockefeller servants, not merely a member, but a founder and director of the Rockefeller's Tri-Lateral commission, where the world's elite meet to plot, plan, and conspire against democratic movements and ideals on worldwide basis. Until recently, full pages on Obama's website bragged about the relationship between Obama and Brzezinski. Most of these pages have been recently scrubbed from the website, but this information is still widely available on the web.
http://www.democracynow.org/20....._link...
Obama has also brought on board two individuals, Anthony Lake and Richard Clarke, who I consider war criminals for their roles in enabling the genocide of 800,000 Africans in Rwanda. Lake's activities led directly to the deaths of 4 million more in Congo. (Details below)
THE NEXT 9-11 ATTACK
If there is any important difference between the candidates, it rests on which of them will say “yes”, and which will say “no” when they are told that the latest “terrorist” attack is justification for bombing Iran.
The Oklahoma City Bombing was supposed to be a false flag operation:
http://www.jaynadavis.com/fn.html
http://www.jaynadavis.com/wsj.html
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/.....njWcn...!398065288!-1407319225!7001!-1
Evidence was planted, for the purpose of showing that this was an Iraqi attack; that there were Iraqi agents on the scene; that Iraq was behind the bombing. Now stop a moment.
Why didn’t Clinton act on this information and attack Iraq? There can be no doubt that Clinton was confronted with this planted evidence, and asked to approve an invasion. And he refused. Instead of killing a million people in Iraq, he nailed Tim McVeigh. Clinton recognized this as a false flag and refused to act upon it. Doesn’t that tell you something?
Given Obama’s hiring of Brzeziski, it appears that, far from resisting the next false flag attack, that Obama would be involved in planning it.
The Clintons are corrupt. Of course. We have an openly corrupt political system. To have a prayer of being elected to national office, candidates must secure donations of hundreds of million of dollars; they get this money from people who have millions of dollars, and who don't give their money without strings attached. The Clintons have played this game well. But there are levels of corruption. One thief steels a house and a vacation from the taxpayer. Another murders thousands of their own citizens, and uses the murder to start a war against uninvolved parties. There’s a difference. If Clinton’s failure to act on the OKC false flag operation doesn’t prove anything, try this one on for size.
CLINTON AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE
The Federal Reserve is a private organization of the largest banks that controls the money supply of the US. Well OK. Someone has to control the money supply, I suppose. But when the US government runs a deficit, instead of just printing the money, the government borrows the money, at interest, from the Federal Reserve Banks. It is the biggest easy money rip off in the history of the world. And Ron Paul, to his credit, has railed against it. It has been suggested that JFK was murdered, in part, because of moves he made to reform the Federal Reserve. But instead of talking about it, Bill Clinton balanced the budget!!! I don’t understand why no one takes in what that means. Clinton denied these thieves the single biggest source of easy money. Because there was no debt, the Federal Reserve thieves couldn’t loan the money to the government. Because there was, in fact, a surplus. Furthermore, Clinton proposed to use the surplus to pay off the existing debt. He was threatening to take away all of the hundreds of billions in interest these men collect on US debt. And he accomplished all this by taxing the billionaires!!! I don’t know why he doesn’t brag about it. I don’t know why YOU don’t acknowledge and give him credit for it. I just plain don’t get it. Newt Gingrich was forced out of politics for his role in it. And Clinton has been scourged by all the press for Monica Lewinski etc. ever since.
More on Obama
Now I’m not saying Obama is a secret member of Skull and Bones, an operative of the Rockefellers, who’s job is to sucker in voters longing for an inspiring leader. But I am saying that he certainly looks like a Rockefeller sockpuppet. Let’s look, for example, at his rise to fame. Obama was nobody before John Kerry “made” him by allowing Obama to give the keynote speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, introducing Kerry. Kerry, along with George Bush Jr. & Sr., was a member of the CIA dominated Skull and Bones. Kerry was the ranking member of the Senate Committee that investigated George Bush Sr.’s role in the crack trade. While Gary Webb won a Pulitzer prize for uncovering Bush‘s role in the crack cocaine epidemic, Kerry’s committee came up empty handed. On election night 2004, Kerry quietly accepted defeat, although Robert Kennedy Jr. says the evidence of voter fraud was and is overwhelming:

Actually, Keith talked yesterday that the mailers were *essentially* accurate not false.

The Latest Fad in Government Thievery

Thomas DiLorenzo
LRC Blog
February 25, 2008

The local media in Balimore have run quite a few stories recently about dozens of citizens who are willing to go to court over fake parking tickets. This is when you return to your car parked on a city street with a half hour or more still on the meter, and a “time expired” ticket already on your windshield. The cops say they’re “looking into it.” (Yeah, as soon as they’re finished looking into all those cop-taser incidents).

But there can never be enough money for government, whose motto is: You’ve got it, and we want it. The latest racket is for the tax collectors (oops! I mean, “police officers”) to write tickets without even getting up out of their swivel chairs at the station. They simply write tickets to randomly-chosen license plates, as this woman, who left Baltimore more than ten years ago, recently discovered. She was not even a resident of the state of Maryland any longer, and her car was no longer registered in the state, when she got a $23 ticket in 1997 which, with fines and interest, is now up to $1100. She’s being hounded by a collection agency employed by the city government, which has advised her to travel from Florida to contest the eleven-year-old ticket in court.

How cool - just heard on the ABC evening news that North Korea has invited Eric Clapton to play there - now that is extraordinary.

Glad they are recognizing another genre for another generation - w00t!

Edwards will not be on OR's primary ballot (end of May).

OR will have plenty of down-ticket races, etc.

Take it up w/the DNC rules & bylaws committee (Google it), seashell--you continue to "react" to what you cannot control.

Constantly.

12-24-365.

It gets old, really fast.

Not gonna happen. Nor will Kucinich, Richardson, or Dodd.

They're OUT. Broke. Finito.

It'll be over by March 4th (esp. OH & TX).

VT & RI will be psychological wins/losses.

Edwards will not be on OR's primary ballot (end of May).

OR will have plenty of down-ticket races, etc.

Take it up w/the DNC rules & bylaws committee (Google it), seashell--you continue to "react" to what you cannot control.

Constantly.

12-24-365.

It gets old, really fast.

Not gonna happen. Nor will Kucinich, Richardson, or Dodd.

They're OUT. Broke. Finito.

It'll be over by March 4th (esp. OH & TX).

VT & RI will be psychological wins/losses.

New thread

http://blogforamerica.com/view/24001#comments 

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz move on, already

FYI

new thread 

IMO, Hillary's winning, hands down esp. about the WAR VOTES.  Good for her. 

Seashell..

You probably didn't see a post to you at bottom of last thread.