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Bob Perry Reports--NH H.B 186
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Explanation: New Hampshire House Bill 186, a bill that would have provided for a random recount audit as a check and balance against electronic voting machines, was defeated in the committee of election law by a vote of 9/8. This speech, one of several, was delivered from the floor of the house on Wednesday, January 16, in an effort to overturn the majority committee report of inexpedient to legislate (ITL-kill). It is difficult to overturn a majority committee report, and this attempt failed with a vote of 253/72.
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Friends and collegues.
Election fraud probably began with the first election ever held, human nature being what it is. In modern times, concerns for America's elections process gained worldwide attention with Election 2000 in Florida, and became the catalyst for the lack of confidence that remains among voters to the present. Harri Hursti, a computer security analyst from Finland, spoke to our electronic voting machine subcommittee. He was one of many experts who assisted us during last summer and fall.
The Diebold AccuVote optical-scan machine is the only electronic voting machine used in New Hampshire. It looks like a small photocopy machine that you feed your ballot into. It is used in 55 percent of New Hampshire's polling places, representing more than 80 percent of the total votes cast. These machines are programmed in secret by a private corporation - LHS Associates, of Methuen, Massachusetts. That bears repeating. All 170 voting machines used in New Hampshire are programmed in secret by this private corporation. No one is allowed to know how these machines have been programmed - not you, not me, not Harri Hursti, not the Secretary of State. Indeed, it is against state and federal law to look inside these machines. This represents a fundamental flaw in the way we vote in New Hampshire, and for which concern is justified. Our voting system belongs to us, not to corporations. It is inherently offensive to our representative democracy that our elections process is now more than 80 percent privatized in New Hampshire, and nearly 87 percent privatized across America. The same machine, the same hardware, the same software as was hacked by Harri Hursti in Leon County, Florida, two years ago, without detection, is the same machine and the same software that was certified for use in New Hampshire a mere three months later, and which remains in use across our state; the same machine that produced a negative 16,022 votes for Al Gore in Volusia County, Florida, in 2000; the same machine that I'm told failed to tally votes in Rochester's Ward 2 for its first 24 minutes of operation; the same machine that may still contain 16 vulnerabilities to hacking, which the CEO of LHS asserts have been fixed. But how could we know? It's a secret process. How long did the vulnerabilities exist? We couldn't know. It's a secret process. We have to take their word for it. If the banking industry discovered similar vulnerabilities in their computers, they would have shut them down immediately. We can't even know if the software certified in March of '06 is, in fact, the software in use, because no one is allowed to make an independent determination.
There are no checks and balances with the use of these machines. No accountability. To be sure, our use of paper ballots provides little security. Those ballots are never going to see the light of day unless an election is challenged. Those subsequent recounts provide little, if any, statistical value, including little or no ability to prove manipulation through demographics. A few votes here, a few votes there, and an election result can be skewed. What does provide a meaningful degree of statistical validity and a meaningful check and balance against the machine is this bill, HB 186, as amended. New Hampshire needs this bill. It provides that the secretary of state shall choose a random process to select towns and wards using optical-scan equipment to count votes that equal at least five percent of the votes cast in the most recent general election, and the recounts shall be randomly selected from the offices of president, U.S. senator, representative to Congress, governor, or state senator. Enacting this bill puts everyone on notice that the New Hampshire legislature is safeguarding the basic rights of each of our citizens to have every vote count and every vote counted.
Last week, this body passed HB 285, a bill that will initiate a new generation of voting machine, one that is built from the ground up to be fail-safe and provably correct. I thank you for that. Little did we know that a few days hence, the eyes of the nation would be focused on the New Hampshire primary, and the veracity of our election system called into question. That challenge, a statewide recount, is ongoing as I speak. Not knowing how much time will pass for the new generation of machine to be developed, I urge you to vote with the minority on HB 186, by voting no on the ITL, so we can bring our amendment forward, found on pg. 229 of the house calendar, so we can then vote yes on ought to pass with amendment. Legitimate and honest elections go to the heart of democracy. Democracy is the gateway to everything else. Thank you.
Bob Perry, State Representative, Dist. 3
(New Durham, Milton, Middleton, Farmington, Strafford and Barrington).
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thanks mary vb for sharing this article a few threads back -- anti (dumb) war opponents Paul and Obama top all donations from U.S. military service personnel:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/military-donors.html
Jack Tapper
Military Donors Back Ron Paul & ObamaFebruary 04, 2008 3:19 PM
The Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks campaign cash, looks at the 2007 money-raising and finds the following:
In 2007, the 2008 presidential candidates raised $582.5 million and spent $481.2 million.
In the 4th quarter of 2007, individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services the No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, contributing industries, respectively. War opponent Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, received the most from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Another war opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was second with about $94,000.
Soldiers love Ron and Barack, and lobbyists love Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the No. 1 recipient of lobbyist cash, receiving $823,000 in 2007 from the lobbying industry, which gave about $2.7 million overall.
Lawyers and law firms have contributed more than any other industry, giving $46.6 million. Democrats got 77 percent of that, with Clinton the top recipient.
Youth vote, shmooth vote, Obama has raised more from retired individuals -- the second biggest donor group -- than any other remaining candidate.
The securities and investment industry, in third place, gave nearly $28.7 million, 56 percent to Democrats, Clinton the top recipient.
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from previous thread:
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mary vb
Tue, 02/05/08
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Monica - Someone is pushing your daily kos diary over there.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2...
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from my neck of the woods in southeastern MA -- rain, rain, come again some other day :
http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2008/02/05/news/news01.txt
A slow start to a Super day
BY SUSAN LaHOUD / SUN CHRONICLE STAFF
Tuesday, February 5, 2008 11:29 AM EST
ATTLEBORO - Super Tuesday did not exactly get off to a super start at some local voting places as rain appeared to dampen turnout within the first three hours of the polls opening.
Workers at the Ward 2 Good News Bible Church, where the usual strand of election roadside signs were conspicuously absent for the presidential primary, reported voters coming in at a trickle, much like the rain.
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At the Ward 1 poll at the Knights of Columbus hall in South Attleboro, workers reported a steady stream of voters by later in the morning.
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Anthony Henry, who said he is a regular voter, cast his ballot for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama "because I'm into the theme of change."
"We cannot keep going same old, same old," he said.
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Poll workers expected a larger turnout as the day progressed, around lunchtime and after people got home from work this evening.
Secretary of State Bill Galvin has predicted a record turnout across the state
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Much better than soda
http://www.drinkpurple.com/actual_index....
Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the "Shadow Government" were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to "render" such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.
Legal Trillions
9/11 triggers a predictable shift of public spending to war, and boosts public and private spending in the "new" New Economy of "Homeland Security," biometrics, universal surveillance, prisons, civil defense, secured enclaves, security, etc.
) Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the "Shadow Government" were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to "render" such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.
The Need for a "New Pearl Harbor"
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the "Project for a New American Century," and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of "regime change." After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.
27) Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the "Bin Ladin Airlift" during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.
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Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax - which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations - were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)?
11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.
b. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks.
c. Initial reports on these trades were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).
Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers - as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the "Phoenix Memo," David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration''s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the "Bojinka" plot, and John O''Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in The 9/11 Commission Report.)
4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?
my son is reporting a big turnout in Little Rock, looks good for Obama
will returns in the east influence voters in the west?
Hillary should score early wins, with her base in the NE,will it spur or deter Obama voters?
6. thanks mary vb, the Lessig endorsement certainly deserves to be viewed
Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?
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or did our enemies uncover the exercise and use the confusion by their timing?
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
Above, please find a link for the source of all of Daniel's serial posts lifted whole without attribution. The site is 911truth.org. Maybe interested bloggers will go there and we can be spared future carpet bombing.
Obama Red-State Strength May Answer Clinton Lead in Strongholds
As Democratic voters in 22 states go to the polls today, Obama's support in Republican-leaning ``Red States'' will give him more ammunition to challenge Senator Hillary Clinton for a majority of the 1,681 delegates at stake, experts say. Obama, 46, of Illinois, who last week was rated the Senate's most liberal member by National Journal magazine, is favored to win most of the five Republican strongholds -- Alaska, Idaho, North Dakota, Colorado and Kansas -- holding caucuses
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=awzLaqeWE40Q
A friend of mine in UT said the newspaper poll there has Obama ahead 2-1.
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580938/20080205/index.jhtml?rsspartner=rssYahooNewscrawler
Feb 5 2008 11:49 AM EST
Barack Obama Looks Strong At Two New Jersey Polling Stations...
By Chris Harris, with additional reporting by Chriselle Almeida
HOBOKEN, New Jersey — Before heading out to work, thousands of New Jersey residents hit the polls. Today's vote — "Super Tuesday," during which 23 states will hold their caucuses and primaries — will be an historic one and may provide an early indication as to who will be the next president of the United States.
If Hoboken is any indication, Senator Barack Obama looks strong in the Garden State, which has been a Democratic stronghold since the 1980s. The majority of voters MTV News spoke with Tuesday morning (February 5) said they were supporting the Illinois senator's candidacy, and Obama supporters were stationed at virtually every street corner, handing out informational flyers and "Obama '08" stickers.
According to one local election official on hand, the absentee turnout for today's primary hasn't been as big as initially projected, but statewide, registration — especially among young and first-time voters — has risen sharply.
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12:24 PM EST
http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-camp-poll-trouble-brooklyn
Obama Source: Poll Trouble in Brooklynby Azi Paybarah | February 5, 2008A source with Obama's New York campaign claims there are problems with voting in parts of Brooklyn.
"There are a substantial amount of problems in a limited location," the source says, citing at at least eight polling locations that are having problems, concentrated in Bed Stuy, Fort Greene, East New York and East Flatbush.
These are also the areas where Obama's support in New York is strongest.
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12:29 PM EST
http://cbs2.com/national/voting.super.tuesday.2.646035.html
Some Voting Machines Malfunction On Super Tuesday Technical Difficulties Delay The VoteHOBOKEN, N.J. (CBS) ― Presidential candidates are ready for Super Tuesday. Voters are ready. Some voting machines in Hoboken, however, are not.
CBS station WCBS-TV has learned that several voting machines are not working Tuesday morning.
Voting officials are trying to fix the problem.
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Ooops sorry, the youtube is Fired Up Ready to Go. I seriously need some sleep.
A bit condescending today, are we? Let's see...who would I like to have a cup of tea with...JE supporters or BO supporters?
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speaking of Hokboken, New Jersey, there's a band I like called From Good Homes in northwestern NJ:
mainefem and Denise, how are your skills at Argentine Tango? Anyone can google. Not everyone can dance.
:-)
12:53 PM EST
typo - speaking of Hokboken, New Jersey, there's a band I like called From Good Homes in northwestern NJ
s/b - speaking of Hoboken, New Jersey, there's a band I like called From Good Homes also in northern NJ
Quick hello again.
On the Huffington Post this mornging: George Stevens Jr.: Barack Obama, The Man I know
This is the last paragraph. I thought it was very good.
"Over the past four years, I have observed in him a consistency that earns confidence. He is thoughtful, courteous and humorous, yet he leaves no doubt that, while being a good listener, he will shape his own thinking and fight for what he believes in. He makes me believe that we can be the country we want to be, that we can solve the intractable problems that have divided us, that we can enlist the youth of America to help build our future, that we can be respected again in the eyes of the world -- and, yes, that we can have a president who will call us to the high ground, and ask us to ask ourselves, once again, not what our country can do for us but what we can do for our country. "
Well, off. I've heard there will be hundreds tonight at the Estes Park High School for Larimer County caucuses. It should be pretty exciting. Thanks Howard Dean, because I believe this is what you were talking about five years ago.
Sea that's really a stretch. What is that about?
You're pretty ungrateful to someone that went out of their way to get info for you - me. Not even a thank you.
Can't google, can't see, can't even say thank you. Like I said, same sh*t, different day, and a much bigger pile.
Go seek attention elsewhere
One of the interesting bits in this article is that organizers in SC had to make it clear to people that Obama is black.
BTW, Bob Perry is one of our Dean-inspired politicians who ran for the NH House and got washed in in the landslide that nobody expected.
So, has the blog regained its sequentiality or is that an illusion?
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So, has the blog regained its sequentiality or is that an illusion?
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Well, where did I end up ? on the bottom ?
sequence check--1:21pm
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bouncing blog --
speaking of dancing, this blog reminds me of the Aztec Two Step dance ? -- one step forward, two steps back
it's almost as bad as this dancer:
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typo -
speaking of dancing, this blog reminds me of the Aztec Two Step dance ? -- one step forward, two steps back
it's almost as bad as this dancer:
s/b -
speaking of dancing, this blog reminds me of the Aztec Two Step dance ? -- one step forward, two steps back
it's almost as bad as this dancer:
What we won't get from Clinton or Obama-- and certainly not from McCain.
- An end to the Iraq occupation
- A decrease in spending on our bloated military
- Universal health care
- Meaningful tax reform
- A balanced budget
- Fair elections
- Taxpayer funded elections
- Mitigation of global warming
- A realistic energy policy
- Reduction in the gap between rich and poor
- etc.
Pat wrote "I've heard there will be hundreds tonight at the Estes Park High School for Larimer County caucuses. It should be pretty exciting."
Have a good time and bring us back a report.
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Denise
Tue, 02/05/08
You're pretty ungrateful to someone that went out of their way to get info for you - me. Not even a thank you."
Exactly my point, Denise.
seashell...you are hardly a newbie to blogging/the internets.
I'd have more patience, if that were the case...it isn't.
Well beyond rude, uncouth, ungrateful, & lacking a "thank you;" and it is also highly unlikely that future assistance will ensue (not w/that sort of defensive posture).
Too lazy to hit the back button to read what you'd posted a few hrs. previous--on your own volition, no less? Get a grip.
Since when is anyone's free labor, bandwidth, and intellectual endeavors taken for granted, hmmmmmm (at all hours of day and night)?
Beyond insulting....
All roll call votes from various legislative sessions are online (as are proposed legislative bills, speeches, and contact info).
A freakin' *kid* can Google...it takes minimal intellectual skillsets--esp. a four plus yr. political blogger.
Same w/the rest of you who paste effin' massive wads of someone else's intellectual property.
I honestly hope that you're sued some day...it's simply a matter of time....
An embedded or tinyurl link, short descriptive sentence (*full attribution to author*); and illustrative comment will suffice.
Poof. Done.
Within seconds, I might add.
On a "real blog," it would've been down-rated to a zero in a nanosecond (into the hidden comments, in the diary section's thread).
That's one means by which to squelch the attention-seeking behaviors, indeedy.
It's no wonder 99% of the BFA 1.0 and 2.0 bloggers took off to real blogs.
It's a inane as someone on an email list (esp. w/an HTML email--a real thrill)--who hits 'reply all' with an entire article and previous reponses embedded therein. No research or intellectual inquiry--simply attention-seeking behavior.
Enough...not everyone lives online 12-24-365 (sans an offline life and career, etc.).
If the moderator sucks, the experienced folks unsub in a flash.
Time for some radical self-imposed behavorial shifts around here, methinks (vs. defensive reactive defensive postures).
Well, its just about time for kickoff in Super Bowl 42 so all I can say is good luck to the New England Patriots and NY Giants........
"David threw a stone with his sling at Goliath. It hit Goliath in the forehead and the giant fell face down. Without a sword in his hand he struck down the giant and killed him."
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Huron John
Tue, 02/05/08
What we won't get from Clinton or Obama-- and certainly not from McCain.
An end to the Iraq occupation
A decrease in spending on our bloated military
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No, we'll get all these anyway. Economy itself will require it...after collapse.
The "way" however, yes, will be much tougher comparing to how we would get all the same with Ron Paul.
1:53 PM EST
poll humor ?
http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/02/05/ap-state-ny/d8ukac481.txt
Clinton votes along with millions of other New Yorkers By MICHAEL GORMLEY Published: Tuesday, February 05, 2008..."You're a Democrat, right?" election worker Evan Norris joked with Clinton, who voted at an elementary school in Chappaqua, a Westchester County suburb about 35 miles northeast of Manhattan. "True blue!" she responded, laughing....
Michael Ellis
Tue, 02/05/08
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Well, its just about time for kickoff in Super Bowl 42 so all I can say is good luck to the New England Patriots and NY Giants........
"David threw a stone with his sling at Goliath. It hit Goliath in the forehead and the giant fell face down. Without a sword in his hand he struck down the giant and killed him."
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Reply?
Why?
Posters should come here with a pooper-scooper, just in case they find they have left a pile.
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http://www.forward.com/articles/12605/
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Tue. Feb 05, 2008
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As voters across the country head to the polls today, Senator Hillary Clinton is counting on Jewish friends in Brooklyn to help bring her to victory in her home state of New York.
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If everyone voted on an IRV ballot with all the candidates still listed this would be a very interesting day, and the final result not much different I suspect.
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extra sheesh !
typo -
44.* rdorgan
Tue, 02/05/08
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s/b -
44.* rdorgan
Tue, 02/05/08
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hard to say how many bloggers we would have if we had a working comment section, the DFA link blogs are very informative and the DFA blog is more than the peanut gallery here, this does need an upgrade and it is amazing we have given occasional users a place to stop by and vent for over four years
don't think that I have violated any copyright laws myself, but if I do, call me on it
there have been occasional lapses by a few, kind of like music file sharing though, somebody making one copy has never been charged even though the numbers are in the millions
If the moderator sucks, the experienced folks unsub in a flash.
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that comment would only have relevance if there was a moderator
this is a fairly radical experiment in self control that has worked so far (still here)
Monica Smith
Tue, 02/05/08
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So, has the blog regained its sequentiality or is that an illusion?
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Not an illusion. It is just plain wrong.
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Let's see...who would I like to have a cup of tea with...JE supporters or BO supporters?
But would either want tea with you?
don't you my way or the highway types ever get out in the public?
bellyaching about ballot choices is as american as baseball, just open your ears at the convienience store or supermarket
the guy behind the counter at the feed store has heard it all.


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By * rdorgan on Feb 5, 2008 11:31 AM ESTHoward -- first ?
Yep.