This just might work.

WooT!

Bill Nelson says he will never give up his campaign and crusade against Dean and the DNC.  He sent an email saying that and has a petition up at his website.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1496

He says he will keep fighting as long as it takes. 

I despise him with every ounce of my being.   I was going to call his office today, but my hubby said wait until I calmed down.  

He never cared about the soldiers,  he only cares about being first and being the winner. Like a schoolyard bully.  I hate that man.

88. Previous thread -- thanks for breaking up the trouble in our sandbox Sherri :~)

G'night all I think.

http://johnedwards.com/watch/iraq-address/

John responds to
President Bush

floridagal, thanks for keeping us informed on the fla sitiation.

Senator Bill Nelson, does he really think this helps him? He barely made re-election, but I guess that's the point, he doesn't have to worry about his constituents for a long time. So he'll be a rabid attack dog.

Funny, he's not even trying to claim any reason that he should still get the delegates for breaking the rules and the calendar, and how it would reck the entire election, besides just saying, WE STILL WANT THEM. Yeah, great.

Obviously he doesn't hold principle, law and ethics in high regard......gee, who else does this sound like?

Thanks for your #4, Annilow.

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Hi folks,

It has come to my attention that some inappropriate remarks have been made recently on the blog. I think now  is a good time to go back and review the DFA Terms of Service that we all signed onto when we joined DFA:

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/tos

I know that it often gets challenging to be civil when in the midst of passionate political discourse, but I would remind everyone to uphold the highest standards since as a member you are a representative of Democracy for America. Blog for America is one of the first places people go to determine whether to join Democracy for America and when you write offensive language on the blog, it sullies the organization, yourself and all who read it.

Thanks,

Sheri

Night, folks.

I can't believe Nelson is waging this war (with Howard essentially). Sheesh.
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Didn't watch Bush - don't have the stomach for that war criminal.
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I saw a lovely bumper sticker today in the Fairhaven section of Bellingham --
*Give 'em hell Howard*. Gotta love all Deaniacs. I'm feeling so nostalgic now. None of the current Dem contenders move me like Howard did/does. Sigh...

I  didn't know there were 37 coalition countries in Iraq.  Where have I been?  This man needs to be removed for being INSANE.

I like many things about Biden and I think he belongs in a GORE cabinet. 

Edwards threw down the gauntlet to Clinton and Obama.   He has nothing to lose and hopefully this will catapault him into first place..if Iowa is really wanting out of Iraq.....while putzie catapaults the propaganda. 

I fell asleep during the first sentence and woke up to "God bless America."  Loved Keith afterwards.

So putz is like the miser who wants to take all his worldly possessions with him to the grave, wanting to make sure the war continues ad infinitum.  Someone please explain why a  dem prez couldn't bring the troops home.  Will putz be signing a pledge with his mirror putz in Baghdad sorta like a signing statement that must be upheld?

 He's clinically insane.

If the dems buy this,....but then, why should they make waves now?  Bought and paid for compliments of our "special relationships." 

Uh oh, this can't be good

Petraeus Expressed Desire for Presidency
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091307A.shtml
Patrick Cockburn of the Independent reports, "The US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, expressed long-term interest in running for the US presidency when he was stationed in Baghdad, according to a senior Iraqi official who knew him at that time."

Here's the word count on Bush speech

Al Qaida - 12 times

Victory - 0 times

That tells the story. Great job, Mr. President.

We need some love and hope that such different spirits can love one another.  I hope this doesn't break the blog.

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The 12-week-old macaque - who was abandoned by his mother - was close to death when it was rescued on Neilingding Island, in Goangdong Province.

After being taken to an animal hospital his health began to improve but he seemed spiritless - until he developed a friendship with a white pigeon.

Scroll down for more...

The macaque nestles his head against his feathered friend

The blossoming relationship helped to revive the macaque who has developed a new lease of life, say staff at the sanctuary.

Now the unlikely duo are never far from each other's side, but they aren't the only ones to strike up an unusual friendship.

Earlier this year a pig adopted a tiger cub and raised him along with her piglets because his mother couldn't feed him.

And in 2005 a baby dear named Mi-Lu befriended lurcher Geoffrey at the Knowsley Animal Park in Merseyside after she was rejected by her mother.

Thanks,

Sheri

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Excellent. Thanks for the reminder. Let's keep it civil and be respectful of each other. We're a community....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-09-13-military-donors_N.htm?csp=34

Posted 3h 51m ago

Both top a new list of presidential candidates receiving campaign contributions from people who work for the four branches of the military and National Guard, according to a study released Thursday by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from this group than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.

Paul, a Texas congressman and the only GOP presidential hopeful who supports an immediate troop withdrawal, comes in second.

"Paul and Obama are talking straight to soldiers, and what they are saying is resonating," said Larnell Exum, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, who gave $500 to Obama.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-09-13-military-donors_N.htm?csp=34

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In 2004, military personnel contributed $1.2 million to presidential and congressional candidates, the center said. This year, those donations are about $200,000.

The analysis also found that military personnel have shifted their donations. In 2002, the center said Democrats received 23% of contributions from military workers; Republicans got 77%. This year, 40% of their donations have gone to Democrats running for Congress and president. The GOP got 59%.

The donation patterns "would suggest that those who wear the uniform want change," said Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

Bruce Altschuler, a political scientist at the State University of New York at Oswego and a Vietnam veteran, said, "The whole country has been shifting to Democrats, and the military, in some ways, is a microcosm of society."

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Howard and Jim Dean are more first every day.

Edwards threw down the gauntlet to Clinton and Obama.

As a WarDem, Edwards only has a gauntlet of hypocrisy. 

He has nothing to lose and hopefully this will catapault him into first place..

And even if Edwards is sincerely against his own record, I can't respect politicians who only tell the truth when they have nothing to lose. 

If the dems buy this,....but then, why should they make waves now?  Bought and paid for compliments of our "special relationships." 

They will certainly make a big show of not buying it before signing another mortgage. 

Hey mary! That's great about the bumper sticker. That must have mad you feel right at home.

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13 seashell, very touching.

a natural animal instinct, including us, touch and expression.

Al Qaida - 12 times

Can't help but believe Bush has drawn all the water there is from that well. 

.........(the sound of sucking wind).............


night all.

Seashell...

Have you ever heard what the procedure is for dealing with someone occupying the Presidency who is delusional and appears to be losing it. We shouldn't ever have to be hostage like this again. If there are no provisions, seems like we need to figure out some for the future.

Have you ever heard what the procedure is for dealing with someone occupying the Presidency who is delusional and appears to be losing it.

Amendment 25 - Presidential Disability and Succession

Audrey and everyone.

We need a provision that allows congress or we the people to force any critter to undergo psychiartric evaluation when asked for; especially the prez, vp and cabinet members.  

How can we get this done and then start with putz?  I'm surprised the Founders didn't think of mental illness.........

I'm surprised the Founders didn't think of mental illness.........

They never imagined Congress would be insane enough to legislate away their own powers and turn presidents into virtual emperors, if not dictators. 

maryvb #9:    After  i finished the post -speech vomit mopping, i dug around in the big living room cabinet and found my ":Give 'em Hell, Howard" button.   Perfect to wear at  the Harkin Steak Thing sunday.   The current candidate class would make a great, great cabinet, but this country really needs a great, great Pres.   We may have to draft one.   Gimme a name or 2.

I know that it often gets challenging to be civil when in the midst of passionate political discourse,

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The political discourse does not have to be very passionate for some people to make slanderous, humiliating remarks without much thought.

bush gave the dems an opening in prolonging the exit into the next administration.  chuck schumer and the dems must ratchet up the pressure on the vulnerable repubs up for re-election.  run ads in their home states while tightening the screws in washington. 

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sid blumenthal's piece on salon.com discusses the offer by the sunnis in anbar to end the violence about two years ago.  the brits advised bush to take it.  he refused.  i want to know how many american troops died in anbar in the two years.  to die for a commander's obstinance is crushing.  i don't know how those families can stand it.

This is a little off topic; but does anyone know what ever became of Monica Lewinsky? Is she hanging out somewhere with Steve Bartman?

The political discourse does not have to be very passionate for some people to make slanderous, humiliating remarks without much thought.

Agreed. Only one person comes to mind though -- and that's who Sheri was talking to.

but does anyone know what ever became of Monica Lewinsky?

We've been distracted by too many things of lesser importance to care. 

sid blumenthal's piece on salon.com discusses the offer by the sunnis in anbar to end the violence about two years ago.

In view of the assassination of their leader yesterday, they obviously aren't in a position to end the violence.  Bush has wandered down another dead end street.

4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Unfortunately, this does not address mental/emotional illnes.

Like I said, we need a provision fast.

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Sitka

Agreed. Only one person comes to mind though -- and that's who Sheri was talking to
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Just a coincidence you should respond? You are always the instigator. Next time will be your turn - just keep up the bad-mouthing.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide,

In other words, It's Cheney's call. We're screwed. 

Back to impeachment. 

Whatever, FRED.

I don't need to plead my case to the blog ad nauseum, so carry on.

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john nelson

This is a little off topic; but does anyone know what ever became of Monica Lewinsky?
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Guaranteed to hear about her if Hillary gets the nomination.

36.

Sitka

I don't need to plead my case to the blog ad nauseum, so carry on

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No, but anybody who interferes with the sacred "out now" mantra, with any kind of diversity, is immediately labeled a heretic according to your faith.

Just saw Sen. Reid's response to Bush. He nailed Bushboy's hide to the wall. And Democrats couldn't have chosen a better spokesperson that a former officer who didn't vote with Bush in 2002.

anybody who interferes with the sacred "out now" mantra, with any kind of diversity, is immediately labeled a heretic according to your faith.

"Heretic" is FRED's term, not mine. I hold anyone who voted with Bush in 2002 to be "discredited."  I hold anyone who wants to leave any number of US troops in Iraq indefinitely to be "dead wrong."

Guaranteed to hear about her if Hillary gets the nomination.

Considering how Hillary's popularity shot up because of Monica back in 1998, Hill just might invite Mona to campaign with her. 

OK, I think I learned how to do this...from my camera.  It's shot thru a screen window but I love the 2 *kissing* finches.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p120/seashell_08/IMG_0107-1.gif 

Great work, Sea! If that's a first effort I can't wait to see what's coming with practice.

But I can't post the photo directly to here for some reason and it's driving my crazy cuz I can post photos from the web directly, just not from my camera.  :-(

OMG, it posted.  Last night it wouldn't!  hum.....

Thanks, Sitka, but what are you complimenting?  The ability to post or  :-) the shot itself? 

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide,

It's the "or"

Huh???

"Then ask two of your friends to join the President and pressure Congress to follow through and start bringing the troops home. With the President on our side, we can finally start to put Iraq behind us.

Thank you, Mr. President for finally supporting the troops."

Charles Chamberlain
Political Director

I know you must mean well, probably speaking tongue-in-cheek (please God tell me this guy is joking)...

Not even republicans here in this deeeeep dark red corner of noflippin' where think the pResident is gonna bring the troops home. That is frankly an ignorant statement.
Do you remember the last four years?
Cake walk?
Self-funded reconstruction?
Stand-up, stand-down?
100 ready to take charge Iraqi divisions?
Purple fingers? yiipppeeeee!

Not a chance in hell are we buying that this pResident is a partner in anything but disaster covered generously with death.
Perhaps VT is toooo far away from the funerals of our soldiers to really understand what is going on. Our finest, and yes brave sons and daughters are still being slaughtered for the muse of an idiot.

National interest, or regional influence, or stabilize the ME my big ole butt.

... you are kidding, aren't you?!?
p.s. about as funny as smushed kittens in the driveway, bud.

40.

Sitka

I hold anyone who voted with Bush in 2002 to be "discredited." I hold anyone who wants to leave any number of US troops in Iraq indefinitely to be "dead wrong."

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You can hold your opinions dear to your heart, but you have no right to denigrate everyone who doesn't share your beliefs, as being accomplice to the neocons, and that is exactly what you do.

You say it as a formally established "fact." It is not your preogative to convict people as such based on the criteria of your own opinion.

You have no right to insult and denigrate good people like that with your self-righteous indignation.

Thanks, Sitka, but what are you complimenting?  The ability to post or  :-) the shot itself?

Everything. Shooting through the screen gives it a surreal effect as if it were pixelated (is that a word?) 

Some people never learn -- or at least one on this blog doesn't.

Keep pleading away to a jury that has seen it all with their own eyes.

dear derF,

I gave Sitka my authorization to oppose the b.s. that is spewed here by blathering minions of the war machine, just like Biden gave the pResident carte blance to go kill folk innocent of threatening our nation.

He's doing a great job. He makes me proud!
Why isn't Biden proud?

This guy/girl? was peeking in at Dante,my cat. 

This guy/girl? was peeking in at Dante,my cat

It's funny how cheeky squirrels can be. 

I gave Sitka my authorization....

And I didn't even have to feed you lies for you to use as an excuse. 

It is really boring even exchanging only one round with this character. He is soooo like one other, i'm starting to be convinced it is the same psycopathic personality, dredged up yet again

... and equally as ineffective. hmmmm

OK, this is the last for now since dial ups are slow.  This is a photoshop creation from several years ago. The colors are much bright than the photo here shows.   I switched their heads.

I can't bear to do D&G tonight so I'm off to read and meditate and watch Stewart.

bbl for a bit 

I switched their heads.

I'll probably be embarrased by this, but I'd think the one on the left is Dick Cheney -- if I had ever seen him smile. And the one on the right -- Chelsea Clinton? 

Thank You, Mr. President by Charles Chamberlain

... we can do better than THAT!

My thoughts are that Nancy Pelosi would make an excellent President, heck for even 12 or 13 months.
All that needs to be done is, as Dennis says, is not give the boyking a single bill to veto. This raving maniac doesn't need even one more rock for his slingshot.
Let the cr@p hit the fan, watch him unravel. Let's see him be the fundraiser-in-chief for money from his oil and pharma buddies for the next 150 million dollars till next August.
Does anyone think that will happen?
Will the 'support the troops' crowd step in with gift money to the treasury?
OR will they say, well, elections matter, no political capital left - the jig is up?( i'm guessing this one, turn-abouts-fair-play... no?)
How about a deal with the insurgents and al Sadr to not shoot away at hordes of C130's getting our folk the heck out of there?
Then Congress can fund the Iraqi to reconstruct the disaster.
It's funny that other countries can swiftly evict a monster at their helm.
We claim to have that wonderful system that is responsive to the people. Right now nearly 95 per cent of non-republicans, and 30 percent of republicans would be in favor of Bush and Cheney retiring early.
Congress needs to represent, now!!

oops that should be 150 billion dollars

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floridagal .

So sad. They've embarrassed themselves.


"Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm. But the harm does not interest them."--T.S. Eliot

Deaniac - re: "...Perhaps VT is toooo far away from the funerals of our soldiers to really understand what is going on. Our finest, and yes brave sons and daughters are still being slaughtered for the muse of an idiot."

I hope you were being tongue in cheek - Vermont has lost the most in this war per capita of any state in the union. we aren't too far away, we're in the middle of it. our latest group of Guards are sniffing out IEDs on the roadsides. have a little respect, huh? just cause we're way up here by Canada doesn't mean we're not 'engaged' with what's happening. the funerals hurt us just as much as any Georgian, my dear.

nighty night, Deaniac. please don't piss on Vermont, unless of course you have good reason and some facts to back it up. do you truly think we aren't suffering this along with the rest of the nation? do you truly think Vermonters have their heads in the sand on this war?

My thoughts are that Nancy Pelosi would make an excellent President, heck for even 12 or 13 months.

I used to think that -- or hope it. In the past few months I've come to wonder if she isn't a perfect example of the Peter Principle -- rising to the level of one's incompetence.  As president would she get punked by the GOP and her own Demoblicans even more than now?