got a 1st for howard and the progressives!!!

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Compressed air?  Is that dirty air or clean air?  If clean air, wherever will they find it?  :-)

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So were some terrorists really caught in Germany or do we need to get the *to be impeached* prez out of the news and away from Keithie?  Putz has now been changed to TBI  - to be impeached!  We need to focus on getting cheney and putz outta office.

Congressional Democrats continue to enable Bush, intimidated by his taunts, and bought and paid for by AIPAC.

Disgusting cowards!

2. Nice Montage Sitka.

For everyone's info, a snippet from Jim Kunstler's latest:

http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diary22.html

What does reality command? Well, first of all (and especially for the benefit of the enviro-progressives I have met recently, who want gold medals for buying hybrid cars) we'd better drop the idea that there is any way whatsoever to preserve our system of happy motoring. The car as a mass market phenomenon, and enabler (dictator, really) of all our daily life arrangements, is finished. We'd better find something else to talk about, or the American future will amount to little more than a colossal circle-jerk on an increasingly unfixable freeway. I am hugely worried (obviously) that even the intelligent-and-educated fraction of our society cannot focus on anything but how to keep all the cars running. A failure to drop this, and move on to more practical endeavors, will lead automatically to a failure of reasonable politics in this country. It is already manifest in the abysmal failure of the Democratic candidates for president to address the looming oil import crisis that will certainly be underway as soon as any of them is inaugurated.
     Reality commands that we prepare to rebuild our small towns and small cities and downsize our gigantic metroplexes. Reality commands that we get serious about local food production and local economies. Reality commands that we rebuild the kind of public transit that people will be grateful to travel on. Reality commands that we prepare to rebuild our harbor facilities for a revival of maritime trade, using ships and boats that do not necessarily run on oil. Reality commands that we put an end to legalized gambling, in order for the public to re-learn one of the primary rules of adult life -- that we generally should not expect to get something for nothing.

Fred,
Step 9 talks about not forcing folks to move.
Step 10 talks about form a united nation.
But I can see where you would think they are complementary.
After all, Biden talks about unforced moving.
A nation can be united even if there are three seperate area.

The smart move is memorize and do step 5. We don't have any positive influence in the outcome. As always, you ignore the fact that since 1998, we have been killing Iraqis and the locals will never forgive us.
The only move is for us to stay out of the procedure.


The Kurds don't count in the Sunni/Shiiate dialog.
The Kurds will have to deal with Turkey and Iran.

Since it is time for the 300 entry circular discussion about why Biden wrote a nice term paper that cannot be implemented because the implementees hate us, I am leaving for the night.

Enjoy the bubble.

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Well, glad to see everything developing.  Even if Dems get elected in 2009 - we could still have filibusters while soldiers and civilians are dying.  Kurds are important.  Washington likes them but they can be just as troublesome if the area disintigrates. bbl

6.

If Kucinich is elected, they'll be on their way home before he's inaugurated. No other Democratic candidate ( other than Mike Gravel) can make that statement.

Republican debate tonite at 9 on Fox................with the exception of Paul, watch in horror as to how far that party has degressed......................no class, no morals and lots pf war mongering and pandering to a portion of society that only reads the funnies section of the sunday newspaper or are too busy praising the lord every sunday to know whats best for them..........

Thompson is scary.  Like all of them! 

The Air Car 

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Another Rube Goldberg "investor's dream" - watch out for more of these as gasoline goes up.

I split infinitives and leave my participles dangling all the time.  LOL

Why MS? 

Another Rube Goldberg "investor's dream" - watch out for more of these as gasoline goes up.

One Biden Plan is enough. 

Sea, it just seemed to be a fit.  The apartment and the complex is very cute, overlooks a river, and is not very far from towns she knows folks at.  She looked long and hard before making her choice.

Thankful may be withoug Internet access for several days.  She just checked in with me so all the BFAers and HEPsters would know she's ok.

Why MS?
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My guess is you mean MA - Massachusetts

As far as split infinitives and dangling participles...

...what are those? (folks, don't delude yourselves into thinking that your chil'en are learning their three Rs. That's all I'm sayin'.

Republican debate tonite at 9 on Fox................with the exception of Paul, watch in horror as to how far that party has degressed......................no class, no morals and lots pf war mongering and pandering to a portion of society that only reads the funnies section of the sunday newspaper or are too busy praising the lord every sunday to know whats best for them..........  

I've been messaging with Ron Paul 08'ers on youtube, and it is disgusting how all the mouth-breather republicans are attacking anyone, especially their fellow Repugs who believe in Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy.  Calling them and him traitors is the mild end of the spectrum.  They make the other candidates look warm and fuzzy.

I couldn't post unless the blog allowed participles to dangle my thoughts by ... 

And if Dems ever did deliver on their biggest promise, made in every election, what would they have left to promise and keep the faithful lured in?

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That makes sense

Just came in on my email 

Tomorrow, Senator Joe Biden will appear live from Baghdad on CNN's American Morning at 7:15 am. We hope you'll tune in! For more information, check your local listings.

Phil, take a shower and use a hand towel.

I'm reading The First Word by Christine Kenneally and the subtitle is "The Search for the Origins of Language".

talk about a moving target

One Biden Plan is enough.

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So far I'm one of the few who've invested in Biden's idea.  It is starting to take shape already in different ways in different geographical places.  It doesn't have to be "Biden's Plan" per se.  The idea is what is important and even Republican moderates on the occupation are starting to send innuendoes of a "responsible withdrawal" 

dog's post (see 6.) is a good example of the initiative taken on the same idea taken by the Iraqis themselves.  If things work out, the bigger picture may not be called "Biden's Plan" but the elements of the Initiative, with which Biden has been laboring for a year now, will be in the heart of the U.S. Congress side of the participation - just wait and see.

My grammar teacher was nicknamed "tweety" by the adolescents I ran with at the time and we would make bets as to how fast we could make him come around a hall corner by someone letting out a quiet, yet clearly audible "meow".

I always considered people who thought high school the "best years of your life" to be losers, but they did have their moments.

I only bring that up on a political blog, because the decider nicknames everyone, so I'm thinking he is stuck back in those halls somewhere, re-living ninth grade.  

  "a wide stance when going to the bathroom"

  It doesn't have to be "Biden's Plan" per se. 

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If the Senator came to that conclusion it might stand a chance.

Come on back, Larry. Last Comic Standing needs new material. 

Right on [if you're watching Olbermann] Carl Bernstein!

 ...the Bill and W contrast is very effective for Hillary.

I can see Republicans bringing back Craig for the subliminal attack it makes on Hillary with reminders of Bill and sex scandals past.

the "ewwh" factor

25.   

Phil, sometimes I think you are being petty about insinuating his ego-centricity.  If that's your greatest-only complaint - well that's great.

But Biden takes the gamble, not the credit,  for this plan (of course, at his age there isn't much left to gamble)

 However, having said that - I say thank you for valuing the plan so much that you put such a premium on the name - subconsciously inadvertant or not - it is a nice compliment and is appreciated.

Throw me down the stairs my hat.

Phil, sometimes I think you are being petty about insinuating his ego-centricity.

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I take it you haven't heard Joe. (Not that he hasn't had a distinguished Seanate career) 

If Larry Craig has some real balls, he will stand up and show the world what he has; Larry Craig could expose the anti-sexuality crowd as the overly obsessive voyeurs they are.

Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy Cow!

let's play two

I take it you haven't heard Joe. (Not that he hasn't had a distinguished Seanate career) 

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I accept your point and it is well taken - however I must admit that his "egocentricity" is in the eye of the beholder.  I have always enjoyed his energy and enthusiasm.  If Kerry had it in the debates, we would not have Bush for President today. 

I never saw it as an ego trip - although I can appreciate why you, or someone more skeptical of him, would see it as such.  Show me a politician or musician with no ego, and I'll show you a cat without a tail.

(picturing Cubs hat in air on stairs)

ibid p. 297

Chris Knight: " The key innate feature of human cognition-the one most relevant to the emergence of language -is in my view the capacity for joint attention and egocentric perspective reversal."

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Yup.

Watching Fox handle the RepugDebate...

thank God the Dems have said NO!

On the issue of immigration

Huckabee said UPS and FEDEX do a better job of tracking...

But the truth is UPS is far better than FEDEX, but I digress.

They made it - I gave $10

But the truth is UPS is far better than FEDEX, but I digress.

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Agree if I wanted to send myself in a box across the border, I would choose UPS and the extra large box.

That is an effective ad Fred. Counters the Republican call for Victory Not Surrender that is up also.

FRED from OR

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How much do you weigh, Fred.  I understand they have federally regulated weight limits.  You might have to go in two boxes.  Hohoho LOL

41. Thanks Phil, that is a valued assessment coming from you with your political instincts - living at ground zero - I don't really care about his being elected as much as his ability to promote the federation idea, which will grow in proportion to how he does there.

42.  Good question wait a minute, I need to get out the scale....135 in shorts.  old spring scale though, might be less - where is everybody?  getting boring.

I don't know if this interests you, PhilAssistant House Majority Leader John Whitaker (D-Hillsboro), whose son was deployed last week to Iraq, today became the 7th Iowa state legislator to endorse Joe Biden for President. Rep. Whitaker's son, Gabe Whitaker is a member of the Iowa National Guard.

Tomorrow, Senator Joe Biden will appear live from Baghdad on CNN's American Morning at 7:15 am. We hope you'll tune in! For more information, check your local listings.

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Will he be as brave as katie couric and not wear a helmet?  I bet he will be surrounded by at least 10 US troops....................................

tell ya whay Fred.................get Biden ina  roo one on one with a sunni, shiite and kurd and see how his plan goes over.....................................

Mike

See post 6. - dog had a link back in the last thread.  It seems a lot like the vision Biden has.  It is taking shape in many forms and many places as we speak.   The "Biden plan" is really not his plan in the bigger picture.  It was just his promoting the idea that our country should participate in this kind of responsible political solution, as we exit.

I don't get CNN - let me know what it is like, if you watch it.   Maybe I can catch a download on the web.

Short on Labor, Farmers in U.S. Shift to Mexico

CELAYA, Mexico — Steve Scaroni, a farmer from California, looked across a luxuriant field of lettuce here in central Mexico and liked what he saw: full-strength crews of Mexican farm workers with no immigration problems.

“I’m as American red-blood as it gets,” Mr. Scaroni said, “but I’m tired of fighting the fight on the immigration issue.”...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/us/05export.html?th&emc=th

You boys are witty tonight.

JudyforDean if you are lurking you are missed. If you're off at the spa you are still missed.

I guess I'm goin to bed. Nite.

Annilow, I concur, what ever Ms Judy for Dean is doing. Whether she be sightseeing, bungee jumping, partying or putting on her final touches to her new home........we miss you and hope you'll be returning soon!

Hey, Annilow & Linda ... great timing! Just logged on after a LONG absence, and while well-meaning, still managed to screw up the new thread. C'mon over and help me clean it up!

So how did the horror show that was the Republican Debate go?  I heard it was blame everything on the Mexicans, from the short glimpse that I saw.