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This Week (ABC): The former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich discusses the tragedy at Virginia Tech and the rest of the week's news. Then, "This Week" continues its "On the Trail" series in New Hampshire with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and his wife, Jackie Clegg Dodd. Roundtable: ABC News' Sam Donaldson, Cokie Roberts and George debate the week's politics.
Meet the Press (NBC): Two Bush administration cabinet members who will conduct a nationwide review and issue recommendations on school safety in the wake of the tragedy at Virginia Tech, Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt and Education Secretary Margaret Spellings, plus two members of the review panel established by Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, retired VA State Police Superintendent Col. Gerald Massengill and Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, will join us to discuss the massacre and the broader issues of school safety.
Plus, a busy week in Washington. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales faced tough questioning on Capitol Hill with Republican calls for his resignation, while the President and the Democrats continued to clash on Iraq, and the Supreme Court handed down a major decision on abortion. Roundtable: Presidential Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, NBC News Chief White House Correspondent David Gregory, Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham and NBC News Justice Correspondent Pete Williams.
Late Edition (CNN): Presidential candidate and Senate Judiciary Committee member Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), Senate Select Intelligence Committee member Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR),Virginia Attorney General Bob McDonnell, New York Times Columnist Thomas Friedman,
Former Clinton special counsel Lanny Davis, Former Reagan-Bush legal counsel David Rivkin, CNN’s Homeland Security Correspondent Jeanne Meserve, Anchor of CNN’s "American Morning" Kiran Chetry, and Anchor at CNN’s "American Morning"John Roberts.
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In honor of Earth Day - here's an article on Gore. Please let this be true!!!!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...
Fair and balanced...you decide!
(thanks for your finding these Monica
http://hannah.smith-family.com
http://hannah.webserver.smith-family.com:8080/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0704220038apr22,1,1864749.story?track=rss
Barack's rockSen. Obama's blunt, tough partner, Michelle, helps shape her husband's politics and life and is integral to his White House run
By Christi Parsons, Bruce Japsen and Bob Secter, Tribune staff reporters
Published April 22, 2007
The featured speaker at a luncheon, Michelle Obama is about to ask a crowd of influential Chicago women to commit their hearts and wallets to her husband's presidential campaign.
But first she's going to make sure they know that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama forgot to put the butter away this morning.
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Michelle Obama, 43, has a reputation for telling it like she thinks it is -- whether about the butter, her husband's ongoing effort to quit smoking or his political priorities. And though she's lighthearted in her critiques, she never plays the role of the deferential political wife.
"He's a gifted man," she tells the audience, "but, in the end, he's just a man."
The fact that the crowd responds with laughter and a long, warm ovation is a good sign for the Obama team.
One of its most formidable tasks, after all, is to win over Democratic-leaning women tempted to help make Sen. Hillary Clinton the first woman president, and Michelle Obama figures prominently in the promotion strategy. She's a charismatic public speaker, an accomplished professional whose life as a working parent looks familiar to all kinds of women.
More than just a spokeswoman, she's a crucial part of the Obama package itself, complementing and shaping her husband in ways that are politically and personally significant.
The daughter of a tight-knit nuclear family, she's an anchor for a spouse who grew up all over the world and barely knew his father. Her background, deeply rooted in a working-class South Side neighborhood, lends credibility to her husband, who has consistently battled questions from some African-Americans about whether the son of an African father and a white American mother is authentically black.
Michelle Obama has listened to that talk many times before, even directed at her.
"I heard that growing up, 'You talk like a white girl,'
" Obama told the Tribune on Friday in her first solo interview since her husband announced his candidacy for president in February. "There isn't one black person who doesn't understand that dynamic. That debate is about the pain that we still struggle with in this country, and Barack knows that more than anyone.
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Who is number one?
I haven't made up my mind, yet. I like them all. I'm interested in an agenda, a phalanx team approach, and the opportunity for a better future for America.
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Even if he's not on the ticket? LOL
Monica -
In the MA primary and (if he wins the dem primary) in the general election.
I'm not waiting for any new entrants.
Repost from last thread about Mike Gravel's positions:
Nice Interview Reed, but I'm not buying his logic. LOL
While I don't buy a whole lot of stuff in NH, I can attest that not having to pay a sales tax is a boon because it's a time-saver. A Sales tax collected with every sale is very inefficient. I realize that businesses actually like it because they get a fee for the service they perform and they get to hold on to the money as a float for a few weeks or months and earn additional interest from that, if the amounts are large enough.
Sending people back a check equivalent to average basis costs is also highly inefficient. Moreover, I suspect he's heading towards substituting that for Social Security. I wouldn't want every family getting a check every month.
Also, blaming the rust belt on the income tax is disingenuous. The reason manufacturing is no longer 60% of our GDP is because more people are getting paid for providing services, rather than making things and the people who used to operate facilities where things are made were provided with financial incentives by vulture capitalists, to move their operations to new facilities, rather than upgrading their existing plants. First they were prompted to move south and then they were prompted to move overseas to make much more of what we don't even need and send lickety-split to the dump. The amount of our income that goes almost directly to waste is incredible. (Yes, bacteria are now producing methane gas in Vermont dumps, but not from the stuff that's made out of plastic).
If there's one criterion we have to incorporate into our planning it's how much time any activity takes out of a person's life, whose term is definitely fixed, even if we (most of us) don't know how long that term actually is.
In considering the cost of health care, for example, we should start taking into account how much unpaid time is spent by both patients and family in getting adequate care now. You know, like the used to estimate that a homemaker's work was worth thirty or forty thousand when earning nothing.
I really think that instead of constantly adjusting the tax system, which just makes everyone take time to learn the new numbers, we should focus on making sure that everyone who's working for someone else gets paid a wage sufficient to maintain that person and provide for his/her reproductive effort (not necessarily in his/her own person, but as a social contribution). Maybe we just need to redefine what we now call leisure into reproduction of the body and spirit (recreation).
Anyway, if wages are adequate, then the income and social security and health contributions increase automatically.
But, think how unfair it is when people earn a little more and pay more taxes to have those revenues just handed back to the wealthy who paid the higher wages. We're all deprived of the increased government services those monies were supposed to provide.
See, if the rich recipients were really interested in paying less out in taxes, they could just increase the wages of the people they employ. But then the likes of George Bush wouldn't be able to claim they did the rich a big favor, would they?
Wonder how long it will take the "beneficiaries" to catch on that they were bribed with other people's money to close their eyes to the crooks' corruption?
Cokie Roberts and those who speak as her with fork-tongue ...
may they choke on the fat they eat.
Prejudice, racial and otherwise, seems to be pretty common in most communities. When it's based on factual evidence, it's actually pretty useful. Consider, for example, a prejudice against mushrooms in general. Even if some are tasty and nutritious, a prejudice against them is protective, unless it's overcome by real knowledge and investigation.
Exclusive behavior based on a person's physical appearance is particularly pernicious because there's no evidence to support it at all. Which suggests that it's purpose isn't protective, but simply manipulative, designed to keep members of one's own group from interacting with strangers.
In Obama's case it's actually possible that the accusation that he's not black is a subterfuge for a rather widespread antagonism towards foreigners--a prejudice black Americans actually share with whites. And, in the case of the presidence is still legal.
Somebody still has to be less equal than somebody else. LOL
More has been said about the tragic murders at Virginia Tech
than any shame out of Iraq.
I am better for not feeding at the trough of the foul CM. thank you Internets and Deans.
I cannot account for Cokie Roberts. She's the daughter of a liberal legislator who was "lost" in a small plane over Alaska. Her mother, Lindy Boggs, was appointed and then elected to Congress. Her brother is part of Patton Boggs law firm, big wheels in D.C.
My first exposure to authentic American politics was at the annual Louisiana picnic in Washington that was hosted by the Boggs. 'Tis a puzzlement.
cannot account for Cokie Roberts
...a puzzlement.
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One can only surmise that we are a product of our environment.
I imagine...she takes the feather like a Roman at every good feast.
Paine - You are on such a roll today with your comments. Very enjoyable!
* rdorgan
Sun, 04/22/07
9:27 am
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I'll be voting for Obama.
Now that's a surprise. I won't--at least in the primaries.
Still hoping for a Gore candidacy. That should finish the other campaigns.
mary vb
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like is said about the weather...
If you like the things i've said...just wait ten minutes! ~;0
Spector and Schumer on Fauxfoul (retch!) at this moment.
in a week that saw more than 500 civilian deaths from sectarian violence, if one counts only the reported numbers, apparently things are looking good. this is just mind-boggling:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
TOP U.S. OFFICERS SEE MIXED RESULTS FROM IRAQ 'SURGE'
Sectarian Killings Decrease in Capital; Suicide Bombings Across Country Rise
By Ann Scott Tyson; WaPo Sunday, April 22, 2007
BAGHDAD, April 21 -- Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said the ongoing increase of nearly 30,000 U.S. troops in the country has achieved "modest progress" but has also met with setbacks such as a rise in devastating suicide bombings and other problems that leave uncertain whether his counterinsurgency strategy will ultimately succeed.
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The commanders search for signs of success. On Friday night at dusk, Petraeus boarded a helicopter to look for scenes of normalcy and progress from above the maelstrom of the capital.
"On a bad day, I actually fly Baghdad just to reassure myself that life still goes on," he said, leaning back and propping his legs on the seat in front of him.
The aircraft banked right and Petraeus caught sight of a patch of relative calm. "He's actually watering the grass!" Petraeus said with a laugh, peering down at a man tending a soccer field, with children playing nearby.
Seconds later, the aircraft pivoted again, exposing boarded-up shops on a deserted, trash-strewn street. A bit farther, along the Tigris River, a hulking pile of twisted steel came into view -- the remains of the Sarafiya bridge, blown up April 12 amid a series of spectacular and deadly suicide bombings.
"That's a setback," Petraeus said, his voice lower. "That breaks your heart."
And so it went, all across the city. Directing the pilot to "break left" or "roll out," he scanned the landscape for even tiny improvements -- a pile of picked-up trash, an Iraqi police car out on patrol, a short line at one gas station -- as if gathering mental ammunition for the next wave of Baghdad carnage. An amusement park, its rides lit up, merited a full circle.
"We have certainly pulled neighborhoods back from the brink," Petraeus said, comparing the signs of revitalization now to his initial shock at the stark deterioration of parts of the capital upon his arrival in February.
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"That's part of the concrete caterpillar," Petraeus said, pointing out a barrier going up in a neighborhood in west Baghdad. "That market was shut completely down when I took command -- now it has 200 shops," he said.
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Flying over Baghdad as the lights of the city came on, Petraeus passed by the city's southern flank, where he led the 101st Airborne Division in the invasion of Iraq in 2003. In an earlier interview, he had said he feels a sense of obligation to help Iraqi people, because "General [Colin] Powell was right, it is Pottery [Barn] rules." But on this, his third tour in Iraq, Petraeus returned to a society that is "more fearful, more suspicious, more worried" and therefore more difficult to help.
"I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say that this has an effect on all of us," he said. "And so every now and then we just get on the helicopter. . . . You go see some projects that you know have been built. . . . You see some police stations and you see people just sort of driving on, people getting on with their lives, and it sort of reassures you. 'Hey, these people are survivors.' "
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Frank Rich is on a roll today. For those with Times-Select, the link is:
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/opinion/22rich.html
Iraq Is the Ultimate Aphrodisiac
PRESIDENT BUSH has skipped the funerals of the troops he sent to Iraq. He took his sweet time to get to Katrina-devastated New Orleans. But last week he raced to Virginia Tech with an alacrity not seen since he hustled from Crawford to Washington to sign a bill interfering in Terri Schiavo’s end-of-life medical care. Mr. Bush assumes the role of mourner in chief on a selective basis, and, as usual with the decider, the decisive factor is politics. Let Walter Reed erupt in scandal, and he’ll take six weeks to show his face — and on a Friday at that, to hide the story in the Saturday papers. The heinous slaughter in Blacksburg, Va., by contrast, was a rare opportunity for him to ostentatiously feel the pain of families whose suffering cannot be blamed on the administration.
But he couldn’t inspire the kind of public acclaim that followed his post-9/11 visit to ground zero or the political comeback that buoyed his predecessor after Oklahoma City. The cancer on the Bush White House, Iraq, is now spreading too fast. The president had barely returned to Washington when the empty hope of the “surge” was hideously mocked by a one-day Baghdad civilian death toll more than five times that of Blacksburg’s. McClatchy Newspapers reported that the death rate for American troops over the past six months was at its all-time high for this war.
At home, the president is also hobbled by the Iraq cancer’s metastasis — the twin implosions of Alberto Gonzales and Paul Wolfowitz. Technically, both men have been pilloried for sins unrelated to the war. The attorney general has repeatedly been caught changing his story about the extent of his involvement in purging eight federal prosecutors. The Financial Times caught the former deputy secretary of defense turned World Bank president privately dictating the extravagant terms of a State Department sinecure for a crony (a k a romantic partner) that showers her with more take-home pay than Condoleezza Rice.
Thankful's now officially on the road. Left at 8 this morning! Will be in Vermont sometime tomorrow. Then at the end of the week she and Jessica will be coming to Free Spirit's Grassroots Retreat near Richmond, where we'll all meet up. WOOt!!
Phil, FWIW, Thankful's in regular touch with Bob. He seems to be doing okay.
Beautiful day here, bright, blue, warm. Mother seems to be showing off on her day.
5. * rdorgan
yeah, i think we figured that one out.
Gore/Dean in 08!
5. * rdorgan
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I too like Obama very much. Very much. I'm glad he stood up and is running. He's good/great.
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Vulture politics.
Two items, very strange.
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Rev. Phelps To Picket VTech Funerals
By: Nicole Belle on Saturday, April 21st, 2007 at 3:13 PM - PDT
Can anyone tell me which version of the Bible Fred Phelps reads? You know, the one that omits all of Jesus's teachings of loving one another and not being judgmental?
An anti-gay religious group known for protesting at the funerals of American soldiers killed in Iraq is planning on appearing at services for those killed on Monday as well.
read more: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/21...
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Lead religious right group does music video: "God hates the world"
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/20/2007 11:16:00 PM ET
This is for real. It's from one of the most vocal conservative Christian churches in the country. We all know that this is what the religious right thinks of us, thinks of the world, but it's interesting to see them actually admit it. Seriously, watch this. And of course, the irony is that these religious right nuts are the same people who have a problem with gay people having kids. Check out THEIR kids in this video. These are the religious right leaders who oppose passing civil rights laws protecting people from being fired simply for being gay. Is it any wonder they want the right to discriminate? This is what they think God and Jesus stand for
watch the video: http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/04/...
2. mary vb
excellent! i just hope he steers clear of the "let's be oh-so-careful" consultants who screwed things up for him (and the country) the last time around.
Gore/Dean 08!
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there are obviously also religious vultures
Susan Rowe
Sun, 04/22/07
10:35 am
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Ive always said the real terrorists are right here amongst us...................
Bush loyalists
$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$
Titles of state
American bourgeois pimps and whores
Yes, Susan, "shared antagonism" is an effective and cheap organizing principle. People like being against something together. In this case, the group seems to have convinced itself that it is united with God in its hatred of all other people.
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* rdorgan
Sun, 04/22/07
9:26 am
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Michelle Obama, 43, has a reputation for telling it like she thinks it is -- whether about the butter, her husband's ongoing effort to quit smoking or his political priorities. And though she's lighthearted in her critiques, she never plays the role of the deferential political wife.
"He's a gifted man," she tells the audience, "but, in the end, he's just a man."
The fact that the crowd responds with laughter and a long, warm ovation is a good sign for the Obama team.
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Yeah..., apparently to be "in the end...just a man" IS a big deal, especially for Presidential candidate..., lol.
terrorists ... here amongst us
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If you were aware before last weeks PBS program MC ed by Mr Mcneil
or became more enlightened after viewing,
then speak out
about the Islamic terrorists among us, here.
Don't let anyone tell you that the freedom fighters of AL qaeda, Hamas, or Hezbollah and the like are no threat to US, because these wish us the ultimate harm. WE have never had a greater threat to our nation.
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Michael Ellis
Sun, 04/22/07
11:02 am
Ive always said the real terrorists are right here amongst us..............
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...lol, good for you Mike.
Quite a bit "general" statement but quite a bit the true one, actual terrorism starts at home, imo.
Imn2Paine
Sun, 04/22/07
11:18 am
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More Americans are killed by............Americans.........witness VA tech, Columbine, national homicide rate, OKC, 1950s nuke tests(and fallout).........etc etc etc
Not to mention suicide rates, domestic violence..........
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Imn2Paine
Sun, 04/22/07
11:18 am
...Don't let anyone tell you that the freedom fighters of AL qaeda, Hamas, or Hezbollah and the like are no threat to US, because these wish us the ultimate harm. WE have never had a greater threat to our nation.
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???
I'll tell you that they ARE NOT threat to "US", because, again, there is no "US" exists and NEVER WERE so far.
They ARE THREAT to Bush&Co., which IS NOT "US", or are they?
Without that clarification, mass CONFUSIONS will continue and NO issue American people ("US"!) face COULD be resolved!
OK...let me retract my post at 34.
So then, I believe in
"Death to Al Qaeda"
some of you may not. Such is life.
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former
Sun, 04/22/07
11:24 am
> ya know, I thought my post at 34 was more cogent than you lead me to think it might be. ?
and in other news while no one was paying attention:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/health...
In Turnabout, Infant Deaths Climb in South
By ERIK ECKHOLM
HOLLANDALE, Miss. — For decades, Mississippi and neighboring states with large black populations and expanses of enduring poverty made steady progress in reducing infant death. But, in what health experts call an ominous portent, progress has stalled and in recent years the death rate has risen in Mississippi and several other states.
The setbacks have raised questions about the impact of cuts in welfare and Medicaid and of poor access to doctors, and, many doctors say, the growing epidemics of obesity, diabetes and hypertension among potential mothers, some of whom tip the scales here at 300 to 400 pounds.
“I don’t think the rise is a fluke, and it’s a disturbing trend, not only in Mississippi but throughout the Southeast,” said Dr. Christina Glick, a neonatologist in Jackson, Miss., and past president of the National Perinatal Association.
To the shock of Mississippi officials, who in 2004 had seen the infant mortality rate — defined as deaths by the age of 1 year per thousand live births — fall to 9.7, the rate jumped sharply in 2005, to 11.4. The national average in 2003, the last year for which data have been compiled, was 6.9. Smaller rises also occurred in 2005 in Alabama, North Carolina and Tennessee. Louisiana and South Carolina saw rises in 2004 and have not yet reported on 2005.
Whether the rises continue or not, federal officials say, rates have stagnated in the Deep South at levels well above the national average.
Most striking, here and throughout the country, is the large racial disparity. In Mississippi, infant deaths among blacks rose to 17 per thousand births in 2005 from 14.2 per thousand in 2004, while those among whites rose to 6.6 per thousand from 6.1. (The national average in 2003 was 5.7 for whites and 14.0 for blacks.)
The overall jump in Mississippi meant that 65 more babies died in 2005 than in the previous year, for a total of 481.
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and take a look at the graphic in the left sidebar here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/health...
Gore campaign team assembles in secret
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I would love to see the nomination of the Democrat's contender be unclear come convention time. Haha, then Howie may become a vote getter AT the convention!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
I'm a little surprised the Gore buzz isn't being chewed, digested, spit out here on our blog. Is it a little bit scary as well as exciting? A little 'be careful what you wish for'? Scary for him? Scary for us? Whatdya think?
Gore campaign team assembles in secret
By Tim Shipman in Washington, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 11:59pm BST 21/04/2007
Friends of Al Gore have secretly started assembling a campaign team in preparation for the former American vice-president to make a fresh bid for the White House.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...
fence-building companies (no doubt Halliburton & KBR are involved somewhere) are making a killing these days:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/opinio...
Editorial
Iraq’s Desperate Exodus
April 22, 2007
Four years of war have exacted a terrible toll on Iraqis, with no end in sight. Car bombings and other violence now kill an average of 100 people a day. Two out of three Iraqis have no regular access to clean water. Children are malnourished and too many are dying from preventable diseases and the near collapse of the health care system.
And an incredible total of four million people — one out of every seven Iraqis — have been forced to flee their homes.
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Half of Iraq’s displaced people have already fled. Jordan, a country of six million people, is now sheltering 750,000 Iraqis. Syria, with a population of 19 million, has about 1.2 million Iraqi refugees. Their governments say they are unable to keep coping with such large inflows. Jordan has already moved to limit new arrivals — barring Iraqi men between the ages of 17 and 35. Others have been less welcoming. Kuwait has completely shut its doors. SAUDI ARABIA IS BUILDING A $7 BILLION BORDER FENCE TO KEEP IRAQIS OUT.
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Have you voted for your DFA candidate yet. Poll closes tonight I think. I just voted for Larry Kissel because he was only 330 votes short the last time out. Besides, North Carolina definitely needs to go progressive.
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Annilow
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What'd we do, get someone banned? wOOT
for anyone who missed it on Thurs, the full gonzo hearing is on C-Span all afternoon.
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I would recommend you have shots of something handy. LOL
What a novelty--a candidate who doesn't campaign. Somebody chosen by the voters.
(rhetorical)If you're watching Cspan...isn't Gonzo is an immature a$$
Annilow, only worth chewing!!! :)
Great news, and something I would suspect that needs to be done if Al Gore would decide to enter in to a campaign to be President.
Great news all around indeed. One would hope he is seeing the heavy requests and support for him and will act upon it.
I know he has much he's been working on, so waiting for a good thing I surely can do.
Time for
A Cool
Change
Al Gore
2008!!!
Happy Earth Day everyone.
much to do, so this is a drive by.
BTW, anyone interested, as some may know, I try not to use sugar. Well, I was successful in making my carrot cake without sugar and with Stevia yesterday, baking on a lower tempature...for hubby's Bday. So, Stevia can be used in all different ways.
Reed, copied the link of your video and will view later. Nice going, as usual.
Have a good Day and do something for our planet today.
"If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man." Albert Einstein
hi all...
A couple of threads back I mentioned tankless water heaters.
A link for info: http://www.tanklesswaterheaterguide.com/...
I am thinking of a Rheems model as mine at the Michigan home is starting to go.
They can be had for much less then $1,000.
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thanks Linda, I will try Stevia.
If one is also watching fat calories as I always have to do, you can lower those by using only egg whites (no yolks) and replacing all or most of the oil with applesauce. I find very little difference in the outcome when used in cakes, cornbread, etc. However, it doesn't work well for most cookies.
33. How very sad.
53 Hey dog, thanks for the info.
linda b was the one mentioning on thread yesterday....I will forward her this link you provided.
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I also voted for Kissell (NC) because I liked all of his message, the fact that he is a social studies teacher -- we need more of these, and because I know he will help to turn NC totally blue. He also knows about lost textile jobs and the horrible results of sending jobs out of the country. He's a winner, or should be.
Enjoy the tune:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...
54 Oh Joan ...:) Pinch Point!
Oh, I was so happy on my lowered version of carrot cake.
I cut the oil to 6 tablespoons, from 1 1/4 cups, instead of 4 eggs, I used 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites. I used to add Maple or Honey as sweetner, making up for the cut in Oil, so I was a bit nervous that those fluids out, I might have a problem with only stevia powder. Had NO problem with the added egg white.
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By Imn2Paine on Apr 22, 2007 9:20 AM EDTThe Deans of the Earth are first this day!